No, its willy wagging.
Call it what you want.
Thanks, but I don't need your permission.
If you won't share your real world experiences then no point in having any dialogue with you and hopefully the readership will see right through your fluff and follow right along.
Opinion.
Please show me, with credible citations (ie- FAA, FAR, AIM), where the use of non standard phraseology is condoned.
You lost any credibility with me since you won't answer direct questions with regards to your real world experiences in the ATC system. I think my credibility with regards of flying in the ATC system stands on it's own. Don't believe me, search the forums on my posts.
Cya later alligator.
Willy wagging and name calling. Real professional!
Relax and calm down. This is a discussion forum, used for, among other things, to share information. You disagree with me on the topic of non standard phraseology then you disagree with the FAA. Take up your argument with them if you wish to have things changed. That you have used non standard phraseology in the past and may do so frequently, does not make what I have cited wrong.
Please cite where pilots are
REQUIRED to use absolute phraseology, like ATC is required to, per the 7110.65. As previously mentioned, the AIM is a guide; a reference for pilots to use, but they are not
REQUIRED to use that phraseology each and every time.
ATC is required to use the same phraseology, or as much as they can outside what normally happens around their airport, per the .65. But pilots are not under such a restriction. Key words in the AIM? 'should', not 'must' or 'shall'. the .65? 'shall' and 'must', not 'should'. Absolutes, not conditionals. There is your disconnect.
You've had a couple of pilots and controllers here correct you, yet you still put up your argument that the pilot is wrong. If you think they are wrong, you could practice what you preach and send in reports of their violations to the FAA to have the pilots scrutinized. If you are right, they will pull the tapes and the CFR and investigate; if you aren't, they will throw your complaint away; I am more inclined to believe the latter will happen, along with about 20 minutes of laughing.
BL.
P.S. The only two things the pilots are
required to read back are runway assignments and hold short instructions. And even then, exact phraseology isn't required by the pilot. As long as they read back the hold short instruction or the runway assignment, they are compliant.