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Offline Swang007

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ATC Recording in Germany
« on: June 04, 2015, 02:04:59 PM »
I was just wondering why it is against the law in Germany to record or listen to ATC communication? I can't find anything about it on the web, just the same law that prohibits listening to ATC.



Offline Kmo2486

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Re: ATC Recording in Germany
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2015, 10:13:34 AM »
Not sure why it's against law but Germany isn't the only country with this law it seems to be a few have same law UK and Spain included which is annoying as I'm in uk and the only other country I've flown to is Spain. So can't listen to anywhere I've been.

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Re: ATC Recording in Germany
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2015, 08:16:06 AM »
This may be a start to help answer your question:
<https://www.change.org/p/deutscher-bundestag-%C3%A4nderung-des-fernmeldegeheimnisses?utm_campaign=petition_created&utm_medium=email&utm_source=guides>

From there you will likely have to follow more law documents and/or contact someone at Bundesnetzagentur (BNetzA) and ask why they still have this World War II-era law for no good reason...and don't provide reasonable exclusions for educational activities like listening to ATC.



Offline sorrygottarunway

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Re: ATC Recording in Germany
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2016, 12:34:55 AM »
People could just set up feeds and I bet no one would care.

Offline 777lrf

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Re: ATC Recording in Germany
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2016, 01:30:00 PM »
People could just set up feeds and I bet no one would care.

And open up this service to criminal filings!

Offline Jonakwan

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Re: ATC Recording in Germany
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2022, 05:18:13 PM »
People could just set up feeds and I bet no one would care.

And open up this service to criminal filings!

It will not open up this service to criminal filings!

My question to you:

Does the Bundestag really care about this law?

I have several resources for reference.

https://rm.coe.int/16806af19e (section 89)

https://germanlawarchive.iuscomp.org/?p=692#86 (section 86)

https://www.itu.int/ITU-D/treg/Legislation/Germany/TelecomAct.pdf (section 86)

Canada has allowed it after banning the broadcast of ATC for many years, why can't Germany do the same as Canada and the U.S.? The U.S. has long allow the broadcast of Live ATC with similar laws in place.