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Listener Forum / Re: Much of Live ATC Webpage is darkened
« Last post by dave on August 10, 2021, 03:52:23 PM »
It will eventually go away.
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Listener Forum / Re: Much of Live ATC Webpage is darkened
« Last post by Eop34Rt on August 10, 2021, 03:51:12 PM »
The home page looks normal but the feeds page still looks like this:
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Listener Forum / Re: Much of Live ATC Webpage is darkened
« Last post by dave on August 10, 2021, 03:45:04 PM »
Should be fixed now. Or turn dark mode off in oyyourur OS/browser.  :-)
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Listener Forum / Much of Live ATC Webpage is darkened
« Last post by Eop34Rt on August 10, 2021, 03:38:16 PM »
Hey, I am not sure if this is where I can post about this kind of issue, but when I opened liveatc.net today it looked like this: was wondering if anyone else is having this problem.

any suggestions on why this is happening? :?
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sheriff-survived-se-minnesota-small-plane-crash-79349802
( I am a Cornhusker, very sad day, RIP)

*UPDATE* Kathryn's Report

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) – Before the plane crashed in Victoria, pieces of it fell off and landed in Jim Frey’s lawn just blocks away.

Investigators say it was portions of the left elevator and left horizontal stabilizer on the back end of the plane.

“I got up out of my chair and I looked around my apple tree, there’s about six to seven-foot-long wing,” said Frey.

“That would definitely indicate that those fell off during flight,” said National Transportation Safety Board Investigator Mike Folkerts.

Without that piece of the plane, investigators say the pilot would have no control over where it lands.

The plane happened to land in a vacant lot but it could have been much worse as it’s right next to a highway, homes, and businesses.

“It kind of shook us up, we’re lucky it didn’t hit our house, I mean three pieces like that,” said Frey.


VICTORIA, Minn. -- A relative has identified three people killed in the fiery crash of a small plane in southeastern Minnesota as a surgeon from Omaha, Nebraska, and two of his family members from Wyoming.

Jo Mertes, of Mantador, North Dakota, told the Star Tribune Sunday that her nephew, 42-year-old Jacob Mertes and his 37-year-old wife, Sara Mertes, of Libby, Montana, died along with her nephew's 72-year-old stepfather, Dr. James Edney, who was piloting the plane. There were no survivors, officials said.The Federal Aviation Administration said the plane was flying from Alexandria Municipal Airport to Eden Prairie’s Flying Cloud Airport before 6 p.m. Saturday when it went down and burst into flames in Victoria, a city of about 7,300 about 25 miles (40 kilometers) southwest of Minneapolis.

“This is a tragic event that happened near the heart of Victoria and our community will keep the victims of this incident and their loved ones in our thoughts and prayers during this time,” city officials said in a statement.

Debris from the Mooney M20M landed in nearby yards and struck at least one house, igniting a fire that bystanders quickly extinguished. No one in the home or on the ground was injured, officials said.

The plane is owned by Edney, an Omaha general surgeon and professor of surgery at University of Nebraska Medical Center. Sara Mertes’ Facebook page shows that she was a physician at Cabinet Peaks Medical Center in Libby, while Jacob Mertes worked as a sanitarian and planner for the Lincoln County Health Department in Montana, the newspaper reported.
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Aviation Accidents/Incidents / 6 dead after sightseeing plane in Alaska crashes
« Last post by KB4TEZ on August 06, 2021, 06:35:26 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/6-dead-after-sightseeing-plane-in-alaska-crashes/ar-AAMZROO?li=BBnb7Kz
R.I.P


Six people died after a sightseeing floatplane carrying cruise ship passengers crashed in southeast Alaska on Thursday, authorities said.Everyone on board the de Havilland Beaver was killed in the crash in the Misty Fjords area, the U.S. Coast Guard said.An emergency beacon was activated around 11:20 a.m., and a search helicopter found the wreckage on a ridgeline at 2:37 p.m.

"Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of the victims and with our guests and team members who are affected by this tragedy," cruise line Holland America said in a statement.

The plane was owned by Southeast Aviation, a private company, and the excursion was not sold by Holland America cruise line, the cruise company said.

The passengers were from the Nieuw Amsterdam, which is near the end of a seven-day cruise that left Seattle on Saturday, the company said.

The deceased were not immediately identified.

The Alaska State Troopers said in a dispatch that the crash scene was in a "steep mountainous area" and that poor visibility and deteriorating weather had at times hampered aerial search efforts. Efforts were being coordinated to recover the bodies, it said.

The National Transportation Safety Board said it was sending a team to investigate the crash.

Southeast Aviation did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Its website says it is based in Ketchikan and among the tours it offers is to the Misty Fjords.

Ketchikan and the Misty Fjords National Monument are in the far southeastern part of Alaska on the panhandle.
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You're welcome, and thank you!  It was before I was aware of liveatc.  That afternoon, I glanced at my ADSB app, and noticed 2 aircraft that appeared to be on top of each other, and guessed that it was one aircraft with 2 transponders.  I looked closer and saw that it was 2 aircraft.  That was about when AA2308 made the right turn.  I live about 1 1/2 miles west of the west downwind for DFW, and was able to glance out the window and see it part way through that turn.  My interest piqued, I started to investigate and analyze what happened...
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Messy!  Great find.

Thanks as well for the timeline and map.
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Ah I see.  I wasn't familiar with cross-coupling until now.  I guess the frequency listing is honest then.

(I'm now somewhat curious on how this is actually done.  It's clear from the change in audio quality that the 121.225 receiver is geographically far from the cross-coupled 134.575 transmitter.  What's the physical layer of the cross coupling?  The internet?  A dedicated line?  Anyways, I digress.)

I'm sure that this sort of cross-coupling labelling difficulty happens all over the site.  I'm a small fish here and don't want to rock the boat.  I don't think any labelling change is needed, unless there's some unifying effort to list this sort of stuff all across the site in a consistent way.

I'll just keep this with my other "ATC quirks" notes.  Thanks for the info!
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However, listening today, I discovered that it also has 121.225.

It varies depending on how they have the sectors configured. In off peak times 134.575, 124.675 and 121.225 are combined with the option to have the frequencies cross-coupled as required. With pre-covid traffic volumes the 3 sectors were usually split during the daytime shift, so you are not going to hear that all the time. I suppose for accuracy they could label the feed "134.575 cross-coupled with 121.225 and 124.675 as required".
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