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Looking at the RING videos it looked like there was some kind of ground fog. The weather was MVFR at the time. The crash occurred at 0314Z.

KSEE 280355Z VRB05KT 3SM BR SCT011 BKN020 11/09 A2996
KSEE 280255Z VRB05KT 3SM BR BKN020 OVC026 10/08 A2998

I wonder what the experience of the two pilots were.

So sad.
Listener Forum / Re: Uncontrolled Airport Streams?
« Last post by dave on December 28, 2021, 06:55:04 AM »
There are tons of CTAF feeds on the system...just pick one and enter the airport code. Try:



Haven't totally listened to the clip yet, but I wonder if the swearing is from Tower.. I mean, this is the second incident at the field in as many months..


It was definitely the pilot. Also, nah, they havent had 2 incidents, the last one was actually a Montgomery Field incident.

Haven't totally listened to the clip yet, but I wonder if the swearing is from Tower.. I mean, this is the second incident at the field in as many months..

Here's the arrival track for the subject aircraft.
CAUTION:  STRONG LANGUAGE IN AUDIO.  Listener discretion is advised.

Incident aircraft appears to be N880Z, registered to Med Jet LLC.  According to Flightware, was enroute from KSNA.  Audio is from KSEE with silences trimmed.  Short version:  sounds like a normal IFR arrival, but aircraft requests to squawk VFR and cancel their IFR, then requests a change of runway to 27, given 27R by tower.  Shortly thereafter, screaming and swear words.  No further on the 0300-0330 archive, but I'm digging further.  I wanted to get this clip out now, since it's very apprent that SOMETHING happened.

Aviation Audio Clips / 28 DEC 2021 0315Z: Aircraft Crash, El Cajon CA (near KSEE/KSAN)
« Last post by n0qxw on December 27, 2021, 11:15:31 PM »
Just getting reports of this through media channels.  Now scrubbing ATC archives for audio.  Opening a post here as a heads up, and in case someone is already ahead of me
Pilot/Controller Forum / Re: KATL tower and ramp questions
« Last post by martyj19 on December 27, 2021, 09:15:32 PM »

The taxi routes are Standard Taxi Routes.  The idea is to save a lot of time on frequency giving the same taxi route over and over.  They are published in Jeppesen charts ($$ subscription required) and in NOTAMs.  I am unable to find the ones for KATL online at the moment since they are only published in the printed NOTAMs once.

Here's an article on the 45 pushback.  Delta claims it saves a few seconds on the pushback.  It depends on the gate geometry whether it is possible at all.  That the controller specifies it has to do with everyone being on the same page as to what the aircraft is going to do.
Listener Forum / Uncontrolled Airport Streams?
« Last post by hishighness on December 27, 2021, 08:49:35 PM »
Hey all, I'd like to listen to some uncontrolled airport chatter, just to see what it sounds like, how different pilots handle it, etc. Just wondering if anyone knows any ATC streams that have this.

Feed Setup Pictures / Re: Ready to set up KLGD feed, but haven't heard anything back
« Last post by Azendale on December 25, 2021, 09:12:38 PM »
I got it this time, thanks so much! Off to getting it set up!
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