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Aviation Audio Clips / Re: Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor landing in Calgary
« Last post by jedgar on September 25, 2021, 10:56:53 PM »
Well, I got to being curious because it seemed somewhat impressive that a challenger could fly from Anchorage to China and back in the timeline. It Arrives in Anchorage at 12:11 AKDT on the 23rd, it then takes off again at :45 AKDT on the morning of th 25th, but I listened to the ATC traffic from the time it left to the time it departed for Calgary, and I never heard it depart for China.

So then I thought, I wonder how they got from China to Anchorage, so I listened to the traffic from the 21st and 22nd as well, but I didn't really hear anything that sounded like it was coming in from China (because it was mostly helicopters and jets) - the only thing I did hear was a Globemaster, but that seems overkill.

A mystery.
Aviation Audio Clips / Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor landing in Calgary
« Last post by jedgar on September 25, 2021, 08:46:36 PM »


The media had reported that they flew from China to Calgary, but apparently, they landed in Edmonton first, however, I could only find the Calgary landing.

Also, looks like they knew the exchange was going to happen on the 23rd? Would have been cool to see the route from Canada to China and China to Canada, but I guess military flight plans are not public?

Edit: Looks like the info on Flightaware is incorrect, they flew up to Anchorage on the 23rd, and then back via Anchorage:

Listener Forum / KCRG - Very low audio level
« Last post by tuggernuts on September 25, 2021, 11:20:45 AM »
Not sure what it has been historically, but this feed is VERY low compared to other feeds, nearly inaudible.
Aviation Accidents/Incidents / Re: Did I see a near miss?
« Last post by rentkonim on September 25, 2021, 08:27:24 AM »
At times you could hear Radio Traffic on Guard... This is generally an aircraft calling another by request from Air Traffic Control for them to join ATC on the correct frequency. Some times you will hear a loud siren sound...That is an ELT (Emergency Locator Transmitter).  This signal is used to home in on lost aircraft, boats in distress and Personal Locator Beacons by the Coast Guard and Local Emergency Management using their Search and Rescue Drones and aircraft.
Listener Forum / LMML Airshow Display Frequency
« Last post by Nicolai953 on September 24, 2021, 06:13:27 PM »
Heads up...tune in to the LMML Feed tomorrow and Sunday (25th and 26th) between 1300UTC and 1600UTC to hear live cockpit to cockpit communication during the Malta International Airshow 2021!!
Listener Forum / KSEA Approach (West) 120.1 quality problems
« Last post by RossComer on September 22, 2021, 04:56:27 PM »
The feed for KSEA Approach (West) 120.1 is just static.

To reproduce: then select KSEA Approach (West)
or go directly to:

This is in the area of KPWT which seems to already have a good feed (  If the existing location can't pick it up, I wonder if it could be hosted at KPWT?  I'd offer but I'm on the opposite side of KSEA. :-(
MP3 format on some feeds is Variable Bitrate MP3 (VBR). That may be your issue. Use a proper player like Audacity that knows how to ingest VBR.

Yup, that is it.  Thanks for the quick response.  Providing feedback to Microsoft now... :-)
MP3 format on some feeds is Variable Bitrate MP3 (VBR). That may be your issue. Use a proper player like Audacity that knows how to ingest VBR.
I'm having unable to get consistent playback at a specific time on at least one recording.  If I hear something interesting and note the time (6:21) and later go back to that time in the recording (6:21), I don't get the same playback and have to search around for that same clip.

- Download (or listen in the web browser) the KSEA Approach (NW) Sep-22-2021-0000Z recording (
- Play from the beginning and note the time when Approach calls "Cirrus 123ZM Radar contact" (I just got 6:21)
- Now drag the playback slider back to 3:00 (or something) and then forward to 6:15
- The original audio isn't there but new audio that I think is from several minutes in the future (from 9:00) is now playing.

Why isn't dragging the slide around consistent?

Perhaps related, the recording is only 16:52 long so perhaps there is some sort of compression that is going on that is confusing the players?
would love to hear from any ATC's from Tampa on this
(just part of a longer article from link above)

Not long ago, the elevator and air conditioning went out in Jen McCoy’s office building. That’s a headache, but in a nearly 50-year-old facility, these things happen.

What’s notable is where McCoy works: The air traffic control tower at Tampa International Airport.

“Twenty flights of stairs in this kind of heat is no fun,” said McCoy, the president of the local chapter of the National Air Traffic Controllers Association. “The airport itself is very nice. They put a lot of money into it. It’s separate from our facility. The tower is very old. It is by far the worst facility I’ve been in.”

McCoy isn’t the only one who feels that way.

Tampa International is one of what the Federal Aviation Administration calls its “Core 30″ airports, generally defined as America’s busiest. The Tampa tower is the second-oldest on the list, behind a 71-year-old facility in Baltimore. Several other Florida airport towers have been replaced this century, including all three other Core 30 hubs: Orlando International Airport and Miami International Airport in 2002 and Palm Beach International Airport in 2010. An $80 million tower is nearing completion at Fort Myers’ Southwest Florida International Airport.

While most new towers are federally funded, Breitenfeldt said local airports, governments and aviation agencies, such as the Hillsborough County Aviation Authority, can contribute to some or all of a project. Airport spokesperson Veronica Cintron said that typically happens only when an airport needs to relocate a tower for its own purposes, which is not the current case with Tampa International.
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