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Listener Forum / Re: How Do I Know Which Feed When Tracking My Flight
« Last post by RonR on October 07, 2025, 13:10:01 UTC »
A short time ago I put together an ORD arrivals map (sort of lol).  After some extensive research (listening for hours lol), this map gives a fairly accurate idea of what frequencies Chicago Tracon uses for approaches to ORD.  It's handwritten so hopefully it's understandable.  Hopefully it helps!

Ron
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Aviation Audio Clips / Re: Government shutdown hits air travel as Burbank goes ATC0
« Last post by KB4TEZ on October 07, 2025, 12:47:05 UTC »
indeed it was.  listened around a bit too, Burbank seemed to be just a prime example of what everyone was thinking.
Love your DCA material too.
John
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Aviation Audio Clips / Re: Government shutdown hits air travel as Burbank goes ATC0
« Last post by baldiedc on October 07, 2025, 12:09:28 UTC »
The Ops plan advisory shows staffing triggers, it was a big list last night

https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt

https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis?adv_date=10062025&advn=68

   
EVENT TIME: 06/2200 - AND LATER
____________________________________________________________________

AIRCRAFT LANDING TEB THROUGH THE 2200Z HOUR MAY EXPERIENCE SOME
AIRBORNE HOLDING DUE TO A STAFFING TRIGGER.  SEVERAL MORE STAFFING
TRIGGERS HAVE BEEN ADDED SINCE THE LAST TELCON.  A EWR GROUND DELAY
PROGRAM WAS IMPLEMENTED DUE TO A PHL AREA C STAFFING TRIGGER.  THE
TWO ROUTES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE NAS ARE ALSO DUE TO STAFFING.

____________________________________________________________________

STAFFING TRIGGER(S):
2300  0100   -PHL AREA C
UNTIL 0100   -D21 TRACON
UNTIL 0200   -ZJX NORTH AREA
UNTIL 0200   -ZJX CENTRAL AREA
UNTIL 0215   -ZID AREA 3
UNTIL 0300   -ZDV AREA 5
2330  0400   -ZDC AREA 1
UNTIL 0400   -DEN ATCT
2315  0445   -BUR ATCT
0115  0500   -C90 OPERATIONS
2300  0500   -PHX ATCT
0000  0500   -P50 OPERATIONS
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Aviation Audio Clips / Government shutdown hits air travel as Burbank goes ATC0
« Last post by KB4TEZ on October 07, 2025, 10:56:50 UTC »
https://abc7ny.com/post/government-shutdown-hits-air-travel-closing-control-tower-causing-delays-country/17956026/

(now for those of us who are used to flying non-towered airparks, KLNA for me, and some larger ones have towers not manned 24/7, I listened to this twice in utter amazement
as Burbank went ATC0.  Pilots and Socal became the tower, was something to listen to)

A pilot preparing to take off Monday from Hollywood Burbank Airport in California took the routine step of radioing the air traffic control tower.

But instead of the usual back-and-forth conversation of coordinating departure, the pilot received a different response: "The tower is closed due to staffing," according to audio recorded by LiveATC.net.

The exchange is one example of the impact the ongoing government shutdown is having on travelers across the US as air traffic controller staffing issues have led to delays at major airports and forced pilots in some areas to pivot to alternative workflows.

Controllers are considered essential workers, so they must work during the shutdown, but are not being paid.

Twelve Federal Aviation Administration facilities saw staffing shortages Monday night. The control towers in Burbank, Phoenix and Denver had so called "staffing triggers" reported in the public FAA operations plan. Other facilities that handle air traffic around airports in Newark, New Jersey; Jacksonville, Florida; Chicago, Washington, DC, and Indianapolis also were short staffed.  Perhaps the most dramatic impact was at the Burbank airport where the control tower was entirely shut down around 4:15 p.m. Monday afternoon. Flights could take off and land but had to follow procedures typically used at small airports without control towers. Delays of more than two and a half hours were reported at one point.

Denver International and Newark Liberty International airports saw ground delays where flights were prohibited from taking off until controllers were able to handle them. Both airports are major hubs for United Airlines; the airline did not respond to CNN's request for comment.

The number of controllers calling out sick has increased since the start of the shutdown, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said in a news conference Monday after talking with controllers in the tower at Newark.

"So now what they think about as they're controlling our airspace, is, 'How am I going to pay my mortgage? How do I make my car payment?'" he said. "Do I think they're more stressed right now in our towers? Yes. Is our airspace unsafe? No."

During this shutdown, Duffy said, the government will do what is necessary to keep the airspace safe.
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https://www.kcra.com/article/helicopter-crash-highway-50/68861531

(never did hear a distress call, glad they got to them quickly)

Lindsay Weber
Digital producer
SACRAMENTO, Calif. —
Three crew members were critically injured when a medical helicopter crashed on Highway 50 on Monday night, according to the California Highway Patrol.

CHP traffic logs indicate the crash was reported just after 7 p.m. on eastbound Highway 50 just east of Stockton Boulevard.  The Sacramento Fire Department said three people were in critical condition following the crash. There was no patient on board, the fire department said, but there was a pilot, nurse and paramedic.

Sacramento Fire said one person was trapped under the helicopter after the crash. A group of around 15 bystanders rushed in to help first responders lift the helicopter off the trapped person, officials said. Hear from a civilian who jumped in to help here.

No other vehicles were hit by the helicopter or involved in the crash, officials said. Read more about the helicopter involved in the crash here.

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Saturday 10/4/25 20:20Z (16:20 local) - US Park Police chopper Eagle-2, returning to DC via Zone 2 from earlier call to Great Falls area, requested by DC Fire to assist with SAR for vehicle in the Potomac between 14th Street Bridge and Memorial Bridge, requiring stop at DCA in a south operation landing Rwy 19.

DCA not too busy at the time, JIA5294, UAL1678, ASA4, EDV5310 given delay vectors on Final approach.  Eagle-2 cleared the area approx 20:27Z allowing DCA operations to resume, and returned to base at 20:28Z stating DC Fire was handling it.

Update 10/5/25 - A user on reddit researched on OpenMHZ and this appears to have been caused by a jet ski rider's phone sending automatic notification of a crash, but there was no crash.  "Jet Ski Shuts Down DCA" is a new one, even for DCA.

Attached combo HELI, OJAAY, Final, edited for time and content, not realtime etc.
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Listener Forum / Re: How Do I Know Which Feed When Tracking My Flight
« Last post by JetScan1 on October 03, 2025, 14:21:30 UTC »
I was on NK3492.

I'm guessing ORD was landing west at the time which explains why you didn't hear them on the SE Feeder frequency. From what I've heard so far, when ORD is landing west the SE Feeder sector is not used and flights are handed off directly from the Center 134.875 to the Final Approach frequency, typically 133.625 for runway 28C around that time.

Also with regard to the Center frequencies how would I know which sector number?

A few years ago I posted some High Altitude Charts in the "ARTCC/FIR/TRACON Maps" Forum that are still "mostly" accurate. Might be helpful ?

https://forums.liveatc.net/artccfirtracon-maps/tracking-flights-coast-to-coast-from-takeoff-to-landing-is-this-possible/

https://forums.liveatc.net/artccfirtracon-maps/high-altitude-chart-zbw-zob-zdc-zau-zid/

I was also on NK2076.  They would have been on a ZLA frequency, coming in from the northeast, but I have no idea which sector before they got handed off to LAS Approach.

124.200 ZLA Sector 07. It's not covered on LiveATC.
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Listener Forum / Re: How Do I Know Which Feed When Tracking My Flight
« Last post by KB4TEZ on October 03, 2025, 13:32:23 UTC »
here's a pretty decent site I use
https://www.radioreference.com

ZAU example attached
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Listener Forum / Re: How Do I Know Which Feed When Tracking My Flight
« Last post by BravoLima on October 03, 2025, 06:24:56 UTC »
I was on NK3492.  Also with regard to the Center frequencies how would I know which sector number? 

I was also on NK2076.  They would have been on a ZLA frequency, coming in from the northeast, but I have no idea which sector before they got handed off to LAS Approach.
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Listener Forum / Re: How Do I Know Which Feed When Tracking My Flight
« Last post by JetScan1 on October 02, 2025, 14:42:42 UTC »
Jetscan1 here ya go !

Thanks. I also found a copy of the TRACON SOP Manual (2017) that you can download here.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5763110-C90-SOP/

They seem to like to switch up their frequencies, recently they have been using the Loop Departure frequency 118.275 for arrival final to 10C, and 135.075 to feed SE arrivals.
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