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Once we were told before we left boston we would, not reach ksfo and land in salt lake for refuel. Another time we were hled in boston to add more fuel and were told not sure we would reach ksfo. During the flight the pilot came on and told us we would indeed make it to ksfo without refueling to everyones relief.
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Its happened to me, makes for a long day
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Thats a rare approach at KSFO, nice catch :-D
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/wildly-strong-headwinds-force-boeing-737-to-stop-700-miles-short-for-fuel/ar-AASd6pL?ocid=mailsignout

Strong eastbound headwinds over the United States are wreaking havoc on flights this week. On Monday, a 737-800 operated by American Airlines trying to reach Phoenix from Boston had to stop short of its destination in Oklahoma City, reportedly because the strong winds had nearly run its fuel dry. For reference, OKC is located around 830 miles, or 724 nautical miles, east of Phoenix. As reported by Oklahoma-based meteorologist Damon Lane, American Airlines flight 2323 is just one of several affected by the unusually strong jet stream early this week. According to him, westbound flights are seeing delays in the 45 minute range, while some eastbound flights--good time to visit Florida--are arriving around an hour early. Wind; why does it do that? We should cancel wind until we figure out what's going on.

AA2323 seems to have landed in Oklahoma, gotten some fuel, and carried onto its destination. However, the total time in transit measured just over six hours--nearly an hour and a half longer than expected. As Lane also notes on Twitter, other westbound flights had similar issues. For example, American Airlines flight AA302 from New York City to Los Angeles was nearly an hour late due to high winds.

Of course, these delays are coming right in the thick of the holiday season. Christmas was Saturday, New Years is Friday night, and a lot of people are heading all over the country to visit friends and family. These weather conditions, along with a fresh new COVID variant, are definitely making it tough on airlines.
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Pilot/Controller Forum / Re: KATL tower and ramp questions
« Last post by KATL042 on December 29, 2021, 12:59:32 AM »
Thank you so much for your reply!  I was able to find the following article and image using some hints from your answer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/6zewg6/what_is_a_black_seven/
https://i.imgur.com/yG3sKWm.jpg (from Jeppesen)
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One oddity is that the pilots made a call to the tower while still on the approach frequency.  The approach controller sent him to the tower frequency.   Minor mistake a rookie like me makes with 700 hours in a Cessna 172, but not an error I would expect from pilots of a turbine aircraft with a lot more training.  I wonder if it might indicate the pilots were distracted.   

The call I'm speaking of is at 8 mins in to the attached audio.
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Aviation Audio Clips / Re: 28 DEC 2021 ~2300Z: KBUR (Burbank, CA) goes ATC Zero
« Last post by n0qxw on December 28, 2021, 10:11:21 PM »
Here's a trimmed audio file.  The first exchange appears to be KBUR Tower with an aircraft preparing for departure notifying them of the closure "for cleaning" and "at least two hours".  The second item is the actual ATC Zero announcement from KBUR Tower.  Interesting to hear that they note "VFR Traffic is not allowed during the ATCT closure."  -- I couldn't find a NOTAM or TFR referring to that.

No other traffic in the 2300-2330Z archive was interesting enough to include in the clip.  Also, as I listen to a live feed, they *JUST* re-opened the tower as of 0309Z.

My guess after the fact?  Given the timing, etc, and the fact that KBUR appears to be manned 24/7, I'm guessing that someone caught COVID, and they were doing a disinfection run in the tower.
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Listener Forum / Re: Burbank tower evacuated
« Last post by dave on December 28, 2021, 09:38:58 PM »
ATC Zero at any ATC facility isn't exactly big news anymore.  :-)

Expect a lot more of it. The NAS routes around the issue. Not ideal at all, but the system works.


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Aviation Audio Clips / 28 DEC 2021 ~2300Z: KBUR (Burbank, CA) goes ATC Zero
« Last post by n0qxw on December 28, 2021, 09:27:25 PM »
Tipped off by a friend to this, digging in the archives now for audio and cause.  Placeholder until I have more or until management moves/deletes the thread

FAA NOTAM search indicates tower closed 0018-0330Z, and was published at 0049Z.  Initial scan of audio sounds like SOCAL Approach went to a one-in, one-out policy for KBUR as well.
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The flash from the impact and/or power lines illuminated some of the clouds that obscured the runway from his position.

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