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Listener Forum / Re: KOKC APP, DL 1730 question
« Last post by tyketto on June 16, 2021, 07:55:57 PM »
Hi, I was listening DL1730 (unruly passenger) ATC.
I couldn't interpret following phrases.
Can somebody help me to dictate it? 
(The audio file is attached)

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Pilot: we do have 17L in our box we can just get vectors to visual to land
ATC : Q. [ get ready as expected ] or [ wherever you expected ] or [    ] ????

ATC: Delta 1730, Roger, you can expect it.

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Pilot : delta 1730, we're going to the airport now, can we get a heading Q. [and lower? (along?) ]

Pilot: Delta 1730, we're direct to the airport, can we get a heading, and lower?

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3.
Pilot: delta 1730, ready for base Q. [so I can ** roller?? ]

Pilot: Delta 1730, we're ready for the base leg and lower. (The pilot steps on the call from ATC at the end of this.)

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Pilot : I'm sorry, delta 1730, I think it's Q.[ ***ning ] for base, Q. [ so I can roller? ]

Pilot: I'm sorry, Delta 1730, I think I stepped on you, we're ready for a base leg and lower.

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ATC : delta 1730, turn right heading 080, descent and maintain 3000, traffic that'll turn will be one o'clock, east bound, helicopter, 2300 ?? 2200?

You're correct here. Altitude for the helicopter traffic was 2200.

BL.
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https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/faa-investigating-san-diego-airport-incident-after-recording-captures-confusion-between-pilot-air-traffic-controller?fbclid=IwAR1Kd4Ac1KW7ArMlAybeFe9O433QPNsDW9GnACh9JbXnmjFguNvExk_2FvE

AN DIEGO (KGTV) -- Recently obtained audio recordings appear to capture some confusion between at least two pilots and an air traffic controller at San Diego International Airport. It is the second time in about a month that an incident prompted a Federal Aviation Administration investigation at the airport.

This latest incident happened just before 6 p.m. last Thursday, the FAA confirmed. The agency did not provide any further details.In the radio traffic, a controller is heard telling a Southwest flight to go around, then heard to not head to the runway, saying a a flight is exiting.

The Southwest pilot then asks, "how are we going to do that?" Then, when the tower asks the pilot to confirm they're going around, the confusion between the pilot and air traffic controller becomes apparent.

"Pilot: no we weren't instructed to go around. (inaudible) you said don't overfly the traffic."

"ATC: 1648, negative I said go around and then do not over fly traffic."
"Pilot: yea, I didn't hear that."

A second pilot then says he also did not hear that order. Another says they're confused about how this all happened.

An ABC 10News aviation source explains that this was not a close call or a "near miss" but instead confusion. The source believes the pilot of the Southwest flight "stepped on" the audio at the same time the traffic controller was telling him to go around, meaning he never heard the request.

He says the other flight was far enough on the runway that it was still safe for the Southwest pilot to continue his landing.

This is the second incident involving an FAA investigation into communications between pilots and air traffic controllers.

On May 14, this station reported a runway incident at San Diego International Airport after air traffic controllers diverted a plane from landing while a second plane was departing. According to a statement from the FAA, the crew of SkyWest Flight 3446 was ordered to discontinue their approach to Runway 27 because another aircraft was on the runway preparing for departure.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/southwest-airlines-cancels-500-flights-after-second-technology-issue-in-two-days/ar-AAL4Qvh

Southwest is investigating the issue and said the two problems didn't appear to be related.
Operations had resumed by midafternoon Tuesday.
Southwest Airlines canceled 500 flights, 15% of its schedule, Tuesday as it struggled with connectivity issues, a day after technical problem with a weather data supplier delayed hundreds of flights.
The Federal Aviation Administration briefly issued a nationwide ground stop for Southwest, which prevents its flights from taking off to avoid overwhelming destinations.

More than 1,690 Southwest flights were delayed on Tuesday, close to half of the carrier's schedule, according to flight tracking site FlightAware. The airline said operations were returning to normal by Tuesday afternoon.
Southwest said it is investigating the issue and doesn't have reason to believe it's connected to Monday's problem.

Denver International Airport earlier tweeted that Southwest was having a "network connectivity issue" and warned travelers that flight delays are likely.

On Monday, 1,541 Southwest flights, about 41% of its schedule, were delayed, according to FlightAware.

The airline said that its operations on were disrupted Monday evening after its "third-party weather provider experienced intermittent performance issues" but told employees earlier Tuesday that it was in "relatively good shape" as operations resumed.
The issue occurred just as airlines like Southwest are flying an increasing number of travelers as demand rebounds from the coronavirus pandemic.

Carriers are grappling with a surge in customers along with employee reductions after they offered buyouts and other packages to cut costs in the pandemic. Southwest, Delta Air Lines and American Airlines, for example, have warned travelers about long hold times for customer service and encouraged them to use self-service options.

While Southwest's issue Tuesday appeared to have only briefly impacted its systems, longer-lasting technology issues or outages can be costly. Delta estimated an August 2016 data center outage that led to about 2,300 cancelations over three days cost it about $150 million in pretax income that quarter.
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Listener Forum / KOKC APP, DL 1730 question
« Last post by AJISAI on June 16, 2021, 02:39:01 AM »
Hi, I was listening DL1730 (unruly passenger) ATC.
I couldn't interpret following phrases.
Can somebody help me to dictate it? 
(The audio file is attached)

1.
Pilot: we do have 17L in our box we can just get vectors to visual to land
ATC : Q. [ get ready as expected ] or [ wherever you expected ] or [    ] ????

2.
Pilot : delta 1730, we're going to the airport now, can we get a heading Q. [and lower? (along?) ]

3.
Pilot: delta 1730, ready for base Q. [so I can ** roller?? ]
Pilot : I'm sorry, delta 1730, I think it's Q.[ ***ning ] for base, Q. [ so I can roller? ]
ATC : delta 1730, turn right heading 080, descent and maintain 3000, traffic that'll turn will be one o'clock, east bound, helicopter, 2300 ?? 2200?

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Aviation Audio Clips / Cirrus Fatal Crash - KTRK
« Last post by Fryy on June 15, 2021, 09:34:32 PM »
Cirrus N89423 fatal crash today in Truckee, CA.

*Edited to mention, there was approximately 3.5 minutes from take off clearance to the time tower started calling them.
 Audio clip is edited down to relevant audio and removed silence. I uploaded the unedited archived audio as well.




https://www.theunion.com/news/one-dead-in-truckee-plane-crash/
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Listener Forum / Re: Geneva frequencies missing
« Last post by Haribda on June 15, 2021, 10:15:15 AM »
Any chance to bring back the LSGG feed?
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Aviation News (General) / Re: Miami Center / MCO
« Last post by KB4TEZ on June 15, 2021, 06:58:41 AM »
completely agree (West Palm here)
and this morning in Orlando, gonna be bumpy coming in this morning too.

jw
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Aviation News (General) / Miami Center / MCO
« Last post by kyle172 on June 14, 2021, 05:27:20 PM »
Summer is here in Florida, hats off to the controllers at Miami Center ZMA 67 handling the weather. It’s been rough here last few days..
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Aviation News (General) / Miami Center / MCO
« Last post by kyle172 on June 14, 2021, 05:26:14 PM »
Summer is here in Florida, hats off to the controllers at Miami Center ZMA 67 handling the weather. It’s been rough here last few days..
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Attached is the relevant audio editted by yours truly of Flight 1730 ATC audio .
Enjoy and comment!

source : https://www.foxnews.com/us/delta-flight-diverted-oklahoma-city

A Delta employee is in custody Saturday morning after allegedly causing a ruckus during one of the airline’s flights Friday night to Atlanta, where he said out loud that "he would take the plane down," Oklahoma City Police tell Fox News.

The incident forced the pilot to divert the aircraft to Oklahoma City following its departure from Los Angeles, flight records show. The man behind the chaos – an off-duty Delta employee in his late 20s – received medical attention after being removed from the plane and the FBI is now taking over the investigation, according to Oklahoma City Police.

"Thanks to the crew and passengers of Delta Flight 1730 (LAX to ATL) who assisted in detaining an unruly passenger as the flight diverted to Oklahoma City (OKC)," Delta said in a statement. "The aircraft landed without incident and the passenger was removed by law enforcement."
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