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Eight people are believed to be dead after two planes collided over Coeur d'Alene Lake in Idaho and then sank, Kootenai County Sheriff's Office Lt. Ryan Higgins said.A call came in for two planes that had collided over the lake around 2:20 p.m., Higgins told CNN Sunday.

Two victims, both deceased, were recovered from the air crafts before they sank, Higgins said.

The remaining six victims are still unaccounted for but are believed to be dead, Higgins said. They include adults and children but no further details were available.

Investigators have not yet determined the cause of the collision or how many victims were on each plane, Higgins told CNN.

The planes were located by a sonar team in 127 feet of water, Higgins said, and will not be recovered until either Monday or Tuesday.

One aircraft involved in the collision was a Cessna 206, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor told CNN.

Investigators do not yet know the make and model of the other aircraft involved.

The FAA and National Transportation Safety Board are investigating the collision, Gregor said.

There were several witnesses who either saw or heard the collision or were witness to the aftermath, Higgins said, as many people were boating on the lake during the holiday weekend.
On July 4th, 2020, a Lancair 320 with registration N103MD was taking off runway 31R at KRHV when they suffered an engine failure seconds after passing the northern end of the runway. The pilot declared a Mayday and landed approximately 2000 feet (<0.3NM) north of the airport next to Hillview Park.

Audio attached to this post was downloaded from LiveATC and edited to only include communications from KRHV Tower, the emergency aircraft, and another aircraft nearby who saw the accident, relaying information. The clip was also shortened to remove longer segment of the audio with no communications.

Emergency Response
At approximately 15:13 local time (22:13 Zulu), San Jose Police and Fire were notified of the event.
SJFD dispatched the following units to the scene: Battalions 1, 2, 5, 13; Engines 2, 16, 24, 624, 31, 631; Trucks 2, 16; Water Tender 21; Squad 26; EMS Med 30; Fire Support Unit 6; Hazardous Incident Team 29

Initial radio calls from the first fire engine that arrived on scene reported a 2-seater aircraft on its belly. Minutes later, fire fighters secured the scene and reported no fires and no leakages from the aircraft. Pilot was safely out of the aircraft, no injuries.
Listener Forum / Re: Phone Data
« Last post by wiedehopf on July 03, 2020, 01:05:14 PM »
Depends on the station.

Maybe 1 to 5 KByte per second.
So 5 KB/s would be 18 MB per hour.

Not really sure, someone has better numbers?
Feed Outage/Status Reports / Re: KSFO and related NORCAL internet outage
« Last post by Squawk 7700 on June 29, 2020, 07:08:15 PM »
Internet outage. We had high winds again. Placed a service ticket to have the line checked.
Listener Forum / Phone Data
« Last post by CptStarboard on June 29, 2020, 05:04:26 PM »
Hi There!

First of all, I hope everyone's doing well during this pandemic. I have just recently picked up the LiveATC iPhone app, but I was concerned about phone data charges, could someone tell me exactly how much phone data would be used while streaming live ATC through the app?

Thank you in advance,
Robert Sun

Pakistan's national carrier has grounded almost a third of its pilots after a government investigation revealed that hundreds across the country had fake licenses and were not qualified to fly.

In a letter to the government Friday, Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) said 141 of its 450 pilots will not be "utilized for any flying duties" as they had "suspicious licenses."

The letter -- sent by PIA General Manager Syed Qamar Maqbool -- was shared with CNN on Monday by the company's spokesperson, Abdullah Khan.
On Wednesday last week, Pakistan Aviation Minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan said 262 pilots in the country "did not take the exam themselves" and had paid someone else to sit it on their behalf.

"They don't have flying experience," he said.

Pakistan has 860 active pilots serving its domestic airlines -- including PIA -- as well as a number of foreign carriers, Khan said.

Khan said all major airlines across Pakistan had been supplied "lists with names" of the fake pilots, along with a request that "action" should be taken to "prevent them from flying." So far, PIA is the only carrier to take action.

A fatal crash
The results of the investigation were announced as part of a preliminary report into a plane crash that killed 97 people on May 22. The PIA flight from Lahore crashed in the southern city of Karachi, killing all but two of the passengers and crew on board.

Khan did not clarify if the two pilots on flight PK 8303 held fake licenses.

According to the report, the pilots were chatting about coronavirus and repeatedly ignored warnings from air traffic controllers before the plane went down in a residential area near the airport.

"The pilots were discussing corona throughout the flight. They were not focused. They talked about the coronavirus and how their families were affected," Khan said, adding that the pilots were "overconfident."

According to Khan, the pilots were told three times by air traffic controllers that the plane was too high and they should not attempt to land, "but the captain did not pay any heed to these instructions."

The pilots proceeded with trying to land -- without lowering the landing gear.

"The aircraft touched the runway surface on its engines," the report said. The engines scrubbed the runway, causing sparks and irreparable damage.

The pilots pulled the plane back into the air, but the damaged engines failed and caused the plane to crash, according to the report.

June 25, 2020 at 1:08 PM EDT - Updated June 25 at 2:18 PM
A helicopter crashed at Tradewinds Park in Coconut Creek on Thursday afternoon.

The aircraft went down in a heavily wooded area of the park, which is located in the 3600 block of W. Sample Road.

Multiple emergency crews responded to the scene.

The Broward Sheriff’s Office Fire Department Technical Rescue Team and Miami-Dade Fire Rescue Air Rescue North were able to hoist the injured pilot from the crash site and he was then transport to a local hospital.

“It was an extremely difficult area to work within, heavily wooded,” Lt. Alex Acosta of Miami-Dade Air Rescue said. Acosta said much of the site had to be cleared using chainsaws to get to the wreckage.

Leamon said the pilot was the only person aboard the helicopter.
Listener Forum / Re: EINN. SHANNON H/L
« Last post by Cpt-Maersk on June 26, 2020, 06:16:14 AM »
Yes me too hoping that a new feeder is found to supply the Shannon High Level.  I would have this on (listening) for most of the day as well as using my receiver to listen to the Shanwick Oceanic NAT Tracks.

I was only last week I was going to buy the LiveATC App for my phone but so glad I didn't then as now Shannon High Level has gone and that is the only station I listen too.
Thanks for posting that audio clip. I have the ground station for LiveATC covering Naples Airport (APF). I got it up and running with a lot of help from Dave a few weeks ago. I tried to edit and post i the clip but couldn’t figure out how to do it. Good Job. Tom K1NEW.
Here is the link to the Preliminary Investigation report.

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