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Listener Forum / Re: Harrison Ford's Runway Incursion at KSNA
« Last post by fholbert on February 17, 2017, 02:04:58 PM »
As someone who’s flown three, even four models of aircraft in a week I’ve been a little confused about what to call myself.

We sure see the same confusion with airline pilots whose flight numbers change on every departure. How often do you hear; SoCal Southwest ahh, ahhh, ah 913, correction 831 out of two climbing one-four thousand.

JetScan1, thanks for putting the audio clip together.
Aviation Accidents/Incidents / Re: Harrison Ford incident.
« Last post by chashulme on February 17, 2017, 01:19:42 PM »
Couldn't find any KSNA audio either, but my brother texted me a TMZ link (ugh) of audio claimed to be of Ford a bit earlier, same aircraft, in a bit of a confused departure handoff from Santa Monica to LAX:
Listener Forum / Re: Harrison Ford's Runway Incursion at KSNA
« Last post by bobanita on February 17, 2017, 11:03:04 AM »
After Harrison forgot to change frequencies and stutters several times saying he is in a helicopter and the KSMO tower tells him he's still on their frequency, he does switch to LA Tower, he's confused again and tells them twice that he is in a helicopter before saying he was sorry. 
Aviation Audio Clips / Tower controller gets honest with survey pilot at KSNA
« Last post by GeoffSM1 on February 17, 2017, 10:45:56 AM »
It seems I was not alone in conducting a fruitless search in the archives for audio from the Harrison Ford incident.  While I was so doing I came across the audio I'm posting here which appears to be a further  example of Airport ATC being (shall we say) a tad unprepared for the activities of a survey aircraft working in close proximity to the airport. The pilot's comment that he would prefer to be out of the way of routine activities prompts the Controller to respond 'Well, to be honest with you, I don't think you're ever going to out of our way in that area'. I'm wondering what sort of survey was being conducted here given the pilot explaining how they would be homing in on commercial properties under construction.  This comes at around 2min 40sec. 
Listener Forum / Re: Harrison Ford's Runway Incursion at KSNA
« Last post by JetScan1 on February 17, 2017, 10:09:33 AM »

Harrison Ford didn't sound like a seasoned pilot of more than 20 years when he stammered through radio calls to the tower ... minutes before his screwed up landing on a taxiway.

TMZ has obtained audio of Harrison's convo with air traffic control as he took off from Santa Monica Airport at 11:49 AM on Feb. 13, and he sounds confused.

The SMO tower sends him off with his tail number -- "Husky Niner Hotel Uniform" -- and gives him a personal code (squawk) of 0214 ... his identifying code for air traffic control. All good up to that point.

The trouble starts when Harrison radios back saying he's in a helicopter. He stutters a few times trying to correct his mistake and then throws out his tail number. The bigger problem is he's still talking to SMO tower, which had already turned over to another tower.

The controller tells Harrison he's on the wrong frequency, and reminds him he should be communicating with the other tower.

Our pilot sources say, on their own, these mistakes would be no big deal. But the FAA might be interested in these because of how his landing went roughly 18 minutes later in Orange County.

I put together the audio clip below, all that I could find from the LiveATC archives, covering the flight from the takeoff at Santa Monica until the handoff from Hawthorne Tower.

Aviation Accidents/Incidents / Re: Harrison Ford incident.
« Last post by Rick108 on February 17, 2017, 09:14:19 AM »
If we want to hear the audio, somebody will have to make a FOIA request to the FAA for the files.  And soon, because I believe the audio is not archived forever at the ATC facilities - for some reason, 30 days sticks in my mind, but I may be confusing that with the LiveATC archives. Somebody in the know should correct me...

The news reports have been saying that after landing, Mr Ford queried the tower about "that aircraft that was under me" and they told him he "had landed on a taxiway".  How does the media have this information if the audio is not publically available?  I have not heard any actual audio in the published reports, but they seem to be quoting things that were said on frequency, so how is that possible?
Aviation Audio Clips / Re: ARG1301 @ KJFK Eng Stall
« Last post by nitroboie on February 16, 2017, 10:31:31 PM »
Thanks for posting the audio clip cptbrw.

Thanks also to nitroboie for the additional information (but no audio clip provided :-( ). However the absence of audio from nitrobie spurred me into listening to the incident on the alternative JFK feeds and I've produced the attached audio clip as a result of this. My clip is from the JFK Tower feed which covers both 31L and 31R. This feed is a bit noisier than the one used by nitroboie but it includes the two go-arounds (in practice, one by Delta 2103 and one by Delta 44).   

Sorry, I was mobile for the majority of the weekend but was finally able to edit a clip down. Some may find it boring others may find it interesting for how planes are worked back into the pattern.

The file attached is DAL2103 going around from 31R, vectors for the 31L approach, cancelled 31L approach, more vectors, and finally landing on 31R. Audio used was from Feb 10 KJFK TWR 1191 0330Z, KJFK NY DEP 0330Z, ROBER 0330Z, ROBER 0400Z, and TWR 1191 0400Z.

DAL44 appears to have diverted back to JFK. KJFK-Twr-1191-Feb-10-2017-0330Z at 6:40 the plane is cleared to take off, I'm not sure why they returned to Kennedy.
Aviation Accidents/Incidents / Re: Harrison Ford incident.
« Last post by GeoffSM1 on February 16, 2017, 06:40:25 PM »
I wish we had the audio of it.

I agree.
Unfortunately it appears that the files were not archived on here.
Aviation Audio Clips / Re: American Eagle CRJ700 hits a deer on takeoff at Charlotte
« Last post by jedgar on February 16, 2017, 11:11:54 AM »
I didn't hear them declare emergency...?  :?
Video from my channel with maps and 3D visuals :-) :-)

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