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Listener Forum / New Feed for Colorado Wildfire Firefighting Communications
« Last post by RonR on August 14, 2025, 18:48:34 UTC »
A new temporary LiveATC feed had gone live covering the firefighting activities related to the ongoing Colorado wildfires.  The feed is located on top of a 10000 foot mountain and covers a number of different frequencies.  Should make for interesting listening.  You can find it by going here:

https://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=kgws

Ron
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DCA 8/13/25 1710Z (1:10pm local) - AAL1394 A319 from PBI on final for Rwy 19 reports flaps issue and breaks off approach.  After delay vectors back on Final, at 1727Z declares emergency with diversion to IAD.  Landed Rwy 19L approx 1740Z, vacated runway and taxi'd to gate after brief inspection.

Combination KDCA Tower/Approach feed (pilot side only), KIAD Final Center (134.2, controller side only), KIAD Tower 1R/19L (120.1); edited for time and content.

https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL1394/history/20250813/1518Z/KPBI/KIAD
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WaPo reporting "After a search for a kidnapped child delayed several flights last week, air traffic controllers at Washington Reagan National Airport were instructed to stop letting police helicopter missions take priority over airline traffic, according to a memo obtained by The Washington Post."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2025/08/12/police-helicopter-delays-national-airport/

Sunday 8/3/25, approx timeline (from 4:50pm local):

20:50Z - FALCON2 lifts South Cap initially requesting "Zone 3" (Zone 3 boundary recently updated to exclude an area of separation along the river / Rwy 1 arrival corridor)

20:54Z - When it became apparent that FALCON2 needed to operate close to the river in the area of the National Harbor, DCA issued go-arounds for flights on final for Rwy 1 in the area of the Wilson Bridge, and coordinated with Potomac to hold arrivals.  Departures from Rwys 1/33 to the North were unaffected.

21:20Z - Arrivals resumed as the Police operation moved Eastwards, sufficiently away from the arrival corridor

21:41Z - FALCON2 returned to South Cap (no audio); WaPo reported the suspect was "arrested that evening"

Attached based on HELI feed from 2030Z & 2100Z covering above timeline from 20:50-21:20Z, edited for time and content, not realtime etc.
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Pilot/Controller Forum / Renewed Pressure to Raise the Pilot Retirement Age
« Last post by KB4TEZ on August 13, 2025, 14:07:58 UTC »
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/articles/news/renewed-pressure-to-raise-the-pilot-retirement-age.html

(seems to come up every year, wondering if ATC's would be next ?)

Will the mandatory legal retirement age for pilots be changed?

Pilots in the United States are currently required to retire at age 65. Now, an increasing number of senators from both parties are working to raise it to 67. Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD), Senators Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) and Mark Kelly (D-AZ) wrote a letter on July 14, 2025, urging the Trump administration to push for removing the age limit globally through the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).

Raising the age, according to proponents, helps retain seasoned pilots, enhancing safety and lowering accident rates. Additionally, they are afraid of losing influence to China, which is already supporting the shift.

However, the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) is strongly opposed to this proposal. In addition to raising ticket costs and creating a costly training backlog, ALPA cautions that raising the retirement age would disrupt airline operations.

They stress that raising the U.S. retirement age beyond 65 would violate international regulations established by the ICAO, which would legally prohibit pilots over 65 from flying abroad, possibly forcing them to take local flights and having an impact on hiring and contracting.


The FAA has likewise advised prudence. According to FAA Administrator Michael Whitaker's recommendation, Congress should postpone any changes until appropriate safety investigations and risk assessments are finished.

"Aviation safety is paramount, and now is not the time to take a shortcut," said Maria Cantwell (D-WA), chair of the Senate Commerce Committee.

The FAA renewal, which included a rise to 67, was previously approved by the U.S. House in July 2023; however, it was withdrawn prior to final passage in the Transportation Trades Department in April 2024. Although domestic legal efforts continue to overcome international laws that prohibit pilots over 65 from flying overseas, the Senate's letter most recently demonstrates increased interest.


In conclusion, ALPA is adamantly opposed to the proposal by U.S. Senators Thune, Blackburn, and Kelly to raise the pilot retirement age to 67, citing safety, contractual, and international legal concerns. Before becoming a reality, any alteration would need to be in li
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Aviation Audio Clips / Nose Gear collapse Portland Oregon
« Last post by KB4TEZ on August 13, 2025, 12:53:52 UTC »
(controller real quick on his feet on this one)

Date:   13-AUG-25
Time:   02:15:00Z
Regis#:   N9517E
Aircraft Make:   BELLANCA
Aircraft Model:   17-30A
Event Type:   INCIDENT
Highest Injury:   NONE
Aircraft Missing:   No
Damage:   UNKNOWN
LOCATION
City:   PORTLAND
State:   OREGON
Country:   UNITED STATES
DESCRIPTION
Description:   AIRCRAFT LANDED AND NOSE GEAR COLLAPSED, PORTLAND, OR.
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Thanks!
Unfortunately
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Aviation Audio Clips / Re: looking for the unacceptable anti israeli slur of a paris ATC
« Last post by RonR on August 12, 2025, 15:37:24 UTC »
Sorry to say, but LiveATC does not have any feeds from France because it is illegal to stream ATC communications from France.  Unfortunately, that means we do not have the audio from that incident.

Ron
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Monday 8/11/25 - A power line inspection helo (c/s Horizon-7) operating at low level in MD between Gaithersburg and North Bethesda in the Special Flight Rules Area (SFRA) and entering the inner Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ), was apparently out of contact with Potomac Approach & DCA Tower, triggering a USCG 'Blackjack' MH35 air defense scramble from DCA at 1623Z (12:23pm local), which in turn required go-around of 2 flights on final approx 6 miles from DCA (RPA5762 and AAL1612) to facilitate expedited USCG departure to the North.  Blackjack intercepted Horizon-7 about 11 miles West of BWI, BWI Final Approach established comms with the helicopter with possible pilot deviation.

1522Z - Bell 206 Jetranger reg N36MK c/s Horizon-7, conducting a low-level inspection of power lines departs Montgomery Country Airpark (advisory on KGAI CTAF 123.075), proceeding West and then South towards Leesburg area

1530Z - KIAD Departure (125.05) calls Horizon-7, no response audible on the feed

1550Z - Horizon-7 contacts tower at Leesburg Executive Airport (KJYO 127.5) to complete inspection in that airspace, then departs back North into MD at 1555Z.  Horizon-7 then flies SE following the power lines to the area of North Bethesda where it crossed into the FRZ and DCA airspace (Zone 7)

1607Z - KIAD Approach (MULLR 126.1) & KBWI Potomac Approach (DC ADIZ 132.775 & WOOLY 128.7) controllers call Horizon-7, later continuing calls around 1623Z during the scramble

1614Z - DCA Tower (Heli 121.275 - new freq) calls Horizon-7 twice after it entered FRZ / DCA airspace around North Bethesda (Zone 7)

1616Z - Horizon-7 heads back N/NE about 12nm from DCA and continues to operate East of Gaithersburg

1623Z - USCG Blackjack-1 scrambles to the North from DCA up to 1000-1500ft.  Tower cancelled clearance for two flights on final for Rwy 19 (RPA5762 and AAL1612) and instructed go-arounds to create space for expedited departure.

1633Z - Blackjack-1 intercepts Horizon-7 about 11 miles West of BWI.  BWI Final Approach (119.0) establishes contact with Horizon-7, provides phone numbers for possible pilot deviation, and hands Horizon-7 off to KRANT 125.65 (currently down on LiveATC).

Attached compilation from multiple frequencies, edited for content and time etc.

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Looking for the unacceptable anti-Israeli slur of a Paris ATC in the critical phase of flight

It's all over the news
https://www.jfeed.com/news/air-traffic-controller-palestine-message

This is unprecedented and needs to be denounced.
it seems that as long that the hate is towards the jews no one cares
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Aviation Audio Clips / Belly Landing gear issue prompts emergency response at Hooks
« Last post by KB4TEZ on August 11, 2025, 10:57:01 UTC »
https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/hooks-airport-emergency-landing/285-c388d703-ad56-4044-ac2c-65eeca3d40cd

(video of the landing in the link above, nicely done.  great coordination on the ground with ATC as well.)

A skilled pilot safely landed a plane at David Wayne Hooks Memorial Airport after a landing gear issue.  Author: Lupita Villarreal
Published: 4:29 PM CDT August 9, 2025
Updated: 6:10 PM CDT August 9, 2025
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HARRIS COUNTY, Texas — An aircraft made a safe landing Saturday morning at David Wayne Hooks Memorial Airport after the pilot reported a landing gear malfunction, according to the Klein Fire Department.

The airport is located on Stuebner Airline Road near Highway 99.

Around 11 a.m., the pilot radioed that the plane’s landing gear would not deploy. Firefighters from multiple agencies responded, including Klein Fire, Spring Fire, Champions Fire and Northwest Volunteer Fire.  Crews used Klein Fire’s Foam 30 unit to lay down a foam blanket on the runway, which is a precaution designed to reduce the risk of fire if sparks occurred during landing.

The aircraft remained in the air for a short time to burn off fuel before attempting to land.

By about 11:54 a.m., the pilot and crew touched down safely without incident. No injuries were reported.
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