Author Topic: Phraseology - Controller saying "request"  (Read 13270 times)

Offline falstro

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Phraseology - Controller saying "request"
« on: June 11, 2013, 02:48:00 AM »
I recently had the opportunity to fly a PAR approach to Büchel Airbase in Germany. It was a ton of fun and I'll definitely try it again when I get the chance. However, as we were getting set up for the approach I received the following call

"<callsign> request heading"

It caught me off guard, and it took a while but I eventually interpreted it as "say heading" and gave him my current heading. He didn't complain, but I'm still not sure if that's what he wanted.

A bit later I got a similar call

"<callsign> request QNE"

However, I was unfamiliar with that Q-code (as a private pilot in europe you pretty much need to know QNH, QFE, QDM and QTE) and only later found out it means "pressure altitude". Q-codes suck. Anyway I said "Say again" and he came back and asked how many were on board (which I incorrectly assumed at that point was what QNE meant).

Anyway, I've never heard a controller say "request" before, is it just army version of "say"? The guy had an obvious german accent, so it might be a german military thing, or a NATO thing, or just a simple mistake on his side. Anyone know?


Offline ATCzero

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Re: Phraseology - Controller saying "request"
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 11:50:42 AM »
Its definitely not how you're supposed to ask in the US. The .65 says the phraseology is "say heading". Must be a Euro thing.

Offline volganevariver

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Re: Phraseology - Controller saying "request"
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2014, 04:43:45 PM »
In Moscow ATC never use "Request" unless it's an entry phrase before asking a question itself, like pilots sometimes do:
- DAL46, Moscow-Control, request
- Go ahead Moscow
- ...question...

I wouldn't ever say like he did and I think this is not correctly at all.

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Offline Gadya

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Re: Phraseology - Controller saying "request"
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2014, 09:42:42 AM »
If an ATC wants to get some information from you something like present heading or crossing altitude he has to ask: report present heading but I still wonder what he ment under request QNE may be he wanted to get your altitude on standard pressure?! We just can assume... not more....

Offline Bob2

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Re: Phraseology - Controller saying "request"
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 02:32:48 PM »
Much of the world outside the U.S. uses ICAO Phraseology.  See for example  There are several ways to get to "request", e.g. select "General" from the categories in the left column, then "request" from the right column. 

"Request" means: “I should like to know...” or “I wish to obtain...”.  "Report" means: “Pass me the following information...”.  I've heard both in cases where "say" would be used in the U.S., and I don't know if there is some fine distinction between the ICAO terms or if they are pretty much equivalent.