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Title: YPAD feed down
Post by: jaydee on April 13, 2008, 06:23:28 PM
Have been listening to Live ATC for a long time but YPAD (Adelaide) is always down.  Anyone know if any chance of it being up in the near future??
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: dave on April 13, 2008, 06:45:45 PM
No - it is delisted now as well.  Feeder is MIA.

-dave

Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on April 14, 2008, 02:57:40 AM
I live in the adelaide area down near Parafield airport, its literally across the train tracks from my house, even with my scanners stock antenna I get it quite clearly..

The thing is though I would not be able to maintain a 24/7 feed and may not be able to afford the bandwidth needed. Does anyone know how much bandwidth is needed (in GB a month)??
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: MathFox on April 14, 2008, 04:11:40 AM
LiveATC feeds are 16kbit/e, 2kbyte/s
2*3600*24*30 kb/mo = 5.2 Gbyte/month for 24/7 operation.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on April 14, 2008, 07:32:59 AM
Yep I thought so, I only have 10GB a month, and most months with general net usage come close to using it.. If only I had a larger cap, hehe.

even if my net was shaped it would be slowed to 64k each way so it would still be able to run a feed.... just.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: jaydee on April 14, 2008, 01:24:04 PM
Would be great if you could run the feed.  Used to live in Adelaide, now in UK.  Unfortunately, no UK feeds allowed  :-(  Am writing to my MP (Member of Parliament) to see what can be done to get this archaic law changed.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on April 14, 2008, 08:55:38 PM
Would be great if you could run the feed.  Used to live in Adelaide, now in UK.  Unfortunately, no UK feeds allowed  :-(  Am writing to my MP (Member of Parliament) to see what can be done to get this archaic law changed.

hey jaydee,

I wish you the best of luck in trying to get the law changed, I can tell you now that it would be an uphill battle that may be too much effort to be worth chasing. But you got my support if your that determined.

For a new feed of YPAD I would really like a new scanner, mine kinda got baked but it still works.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on April 14, 2008, 09:58:23 PM
I'm thinking about starting up a YPAD feed. Like Jacko I only have 10GB a month for uploads but I'll see how it goes. I need to sort out cabling for my J-Pole then I should be good to go.

Is there a tutorial anywhere about what software etc to use for running LiveATC streams?

Cheers, Drift
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on April 15, 2008, 12:35:20 AM
I'm thinking about starting up a YPAD feed. Like Jacko I only have 10GB a month for uploads but I'll see how it goes. I need to sort out cabling for my J-Pole then I should be good to go.

Is there a tutorial anywhere about what software etc to use for running LiveATC streams?

Cheers, Drift

What suburb are you in, if you want I could stick to Parafield airport, its nice and close to me and with my scanners stock antenna it actually sounds ok.

The tower is clear, but the pilots are a little scratchy, I think I would go with a discone antenna myself.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on April 15, 2008, 04:10:49 AM
What suburb are you in, if you want I could stick to Parafield airport, its nice and close to me and with my scanners stock antenna it actually sounds ok.

The tower is clear, but the pilots are a little scratchy, I think I would go with a discone antenna myself.

I'm in Colonel Light Gardens, roughly 8km LoS to Adel Airport. I was going to shift the J-Pole to the other side of house where its closer to the computer which will be running the audio stream, however when I tested the J-Pole in that location the signal was pretty crappy so I've put it back in its previous spot on the roof. I might get a discone at a later date.

A stream from Parafield would be good if you could set that up :) I can't pick it up from here :(

I'll keep thinking for another solution..

Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on April 15, 2008, 04:38:09 AM
Yep I can pick up the parafield stuff here no worries, if your ever in town it would be great to catch up for a chinwag.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: jaydee on April 15, 2008, 01:01:40 PM
What suburb are you in, if you want I could stick to Parafield airport, its nice and close to me and with my scanners stock antenna it actually sounds ok.

The tower is clear, but the pilots are a little scratchy, I think I would go with a discone antenna myself.

I'm in Colonel Light Gardens, roughly 8km LoS to Adel Airport. I was going to shift the J-Pole to the other side of house where its closer to the computer which will be running the audio stream, however when I tested the J-Pole in that location the signal was pretty crappy so I've put it back in its previous spot on the roof. I might get a discone at a later date.

A stream from Parafield would be good if you could set that up :) I can't pick it up from here :(

I'll keep thinking for another solution..



Great stuff Drift and Jacko, hope you can sort this between you.  Will look forward to picking up Adelaide in the not too distant future  :-)  Sorry I can't get Heathrow for you but I'm working on it!
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on April 16, 2008, 03:32:40 AM
No worries mate, good luck with that battle!

I think I'm all set now, just waiting for a reply from LiveATC with software & settings etc  :roll:
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on April 16, 2008, 10:25:24 AM
No worries mate, good luck with that battle!

I think I'm all set now, just waiting for a reply from LiveATC with software & settings etc  :roll:

Great work, ill be listening in for sure. It could be some time till I get a YPPF feed up as I need to save my money for a new saxophone before spending it on scanner equipment, I could perhaps look at running a non 24/7 feed, im quite happy to run one say during daylight hours.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on April 17, 2008, 10:57:06 AM
Does anybody know which frequencies were previously on the YPAD feed. There are quite a few freqs but I'm not entirely sure which ones are the most important.
Have a look at this site http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/airband.htm The more frequencies on the feed, the more confusing it'll be to listen to.  :-(
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on April 17, 2008, 06:38:26 PM
Does anybody know which frequencies were previously on the YPAD feed. There are quite a few freqs but I'm not entirely sure which ones are the most important.
Have a look at this site http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/airband.htm The more frequencies on the feed, the more confusing it'll be to listen to.  :-(

I would start out with all the ATC bands, the other stuff is real carrier related, man you could run dozens of scanners on this feed.... I so cannot wait for this feed, I wish it were up now so I could listen to my brothers flight come into Adl from Syd....

*goes to turn on Sydney feed*
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on April 21, 2008, 11:03:04 AM
I was just wondering how far off is this feed from being up..  :roll:  :?
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on April 21, 2008, 11:10:53 PM
Not long  :-D
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: dave on April 21, 2008, 11:54:47 PM
Feed was listed a little while ago.

Good job Drift!

-dave

Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on April 23, 2008, 10:59:21 AM
Great news,

Thanks again Dave and Drift
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: jaydee on April 23, 2008, 05:56:27 PM
Have just logged in after a couple of days away.  Thank you Drift and Dave for providing this service and so quickly too.  Excellent news.  :-) Will be listening to YPAD frequently.  Cheers.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on April 24, 2008, 03:08:28 AM
No worries guys, happy listening :D

If there are any issues with the feed, contact me via 'drift at air-stream dot org' and I'll try and sort things out ASAP.

Drift
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: lazerin on April 26, 2008, 10:44:50 PM
Drift, thanks so much for doing this!
I only recently stumbled on this site and found the stream. Loving it!

Keep up the good work, mate  :-)
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on April 27, 2008, 01:23:00 AM
Drift I had a listen today and the quality is fantastic..

Also I had a look at your air stream website, looks very interesting indeed, I click the parafield gardens link on there an totally recognised the house in the pics :) (this is getting OT, sorry)
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on April 28, 2008, 11:31:06 AM
Cheers guys!

Jacko, good to hear that the quality is fantastic, I was initially a bit worried about distortion because I couldn't turn down the line-in volume enough. I think its just a tad above mute right now & the volume knob on the scanner only has about a 1/4 of a turn.

Yep, Air-Stream is quite interesting. Currently the YPAD feed is being uploaded to the LiveATC server using a friend's internet on Air-Stream (with his permission). This means that the stream is travelling across Adelaide via wireless before it even gets anywhere near LiveATC  :lol: If the YPAD feed is ever down, it's probably because of a bung link on wireless somewhere (it passes through 10 different access points & routers before it gets to my friends server)

Anyway, back on topic now :D

Drift
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: jaydee on May 12, 2008, 05:55:06 PM
Have to agree with Jacko - quality is amazing.  Must be one of the best on LiveATC.  :-) Thanks very much Drift.  Looks like it's down at the moment but no doubt will be on air again soon.  All the best.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on May 14, 2008, 08:06:44 PM
Drift said to me sometimes it will go on and off as its sent over air through a server in ADL before being sent to liveATCs servers. I have also donated a scanner to Drift, so we will see what happens.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on May 15, 2008, 09:42:25 AM
Stream is up and running again, sorry for the downtime!

I rebooted my server the other day & it seems the stream did not startup automatically like it should've  :roll:

I'm currently unsure what lies ahead for Jacko's donated scanner. Possibly another stream  :-o or maybe just for personal use, as my only scanner runs the LiveATC feed now.

Drift
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: jaydee on May 15, 2008, 06:23:43 PM
Stream is up and running again, sorry for the downtime!

I rebooted my server the other day & it seems the stream did not startup automatically like it should've  :roll:

I'm currently unsure what lies ahead for Jacko's donated scanner. Possibly another stream  :-o or maybe just for personal use, as my only scanner runs the LiveATC feed now.

Drift

Thanks Drift, just been listening, very good quality as usual  :-)  All the best.

Jaydee

Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on August 29, 2008, 10:44:37 AM
Hey guys, I was just wondering if someone could give me a status report on the YPAD feed. e.g. audio clarity, signal quality, abnormal noises/signal, stability.

I never listen to it or check the radio & computer setup so I'm not sure if it's still running properly

Let me know :)

Cheers, Drift
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Jacko on August 31, 2008, 11:51:57 PM
Hey Drift I got the feed on now, there seems to be a werid noise on some of the channels.. like a tick tick tick tick type thing.

Attached is a little example of what I mean..

Thanks for the feed Drift :)
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on September 01, 2008, 02:52:21 AM
Ahhhh bummer! Interference!

There is something in my area which generates interference across a large part of the VHF band, and sometimes up in UHF.  Unfortunately there's not alot I can do about it. On stronger signals its not as noticeable, but some of the signals from the airport can be weak at times, especially when the weather is doing funny things.

I think it's just something we'll have to put up with, its very frustrating when I'm talking on the amateur bands!  :x

Thanks for your feedback :)
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: lazerin on October 04, 2008, 04:38:41 AM
Hey guys,
Is the feed still working? It seems to be streaming but I can't hear anything anymore :(
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: dave on October 04, 2008, 05:19:39 AM
Hey guys,
Is the feed still working? It seems to be streaming but I can't hear anything anymore :(

This is becoming a common problem, one that we spend way too much time having to chase.  Feeders are leaving their feeds running (unwittingly, I'm sure) and disconnecting scanners, etc.  Or somehow rerouting sound card inputs, etc.

I wish we had silence detection on the server side that could block feeds that have been quiet for a really long time (like 24 hours).
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: Drift on October 08, 2008, 03:35:56 AM
Hi Guys,

Sorry for the downtime, a few blackouts & power surges last week buggered up the server a bit, somehow changed the audio input in the LiveATC program.

All sorted now, let me know if theres any issues.

Cheers.
Title: Re: YPAD feed down
Post by: lazerin on October 30, 2008, 11:19:19 PM
Thanks Drift! Appreciate it :D