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Title: Why turn around UPS heavy??
Post by: HAMMER_KPDX on December 24, 2005, 12:53:48 AM

12/23/05  9:45 PST
UPS 9220 from KONT to KPDX with about 10 minutes left to arrival tells tower that "they've decided they want us to come back." So the tower gives vectors and flight plan to KONT and turns them over to Seattle Center....

Just curious if anyone has ideas "What for?" :?

Here's screenie :

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1221/ups92205qe.th.jpg) (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ups92205qe.jpg)

Title: Why turn around UPS heavy??
Post by: IndyTower on December 24, 2005, 01:01:05 AM

They forgot an important Christmas present.  ;)

Title: Why turn around UPS heavy??
Post by: HAMMER_KPDX on December 24, 2005, 01:03:54 AM

(http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7848/ups9220a7ny.th.jpg) (http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ups9220a7ny.jpg)

(http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4685/ups9220b7ak.th.jpg) (http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ups9220b7ak.jpg)

Title: Why turn around UPS heavy??
Post by: KMSY on December 24, 2005, 11:21:13 AM

That is weird with all of those very important packages two days before Christmas!

Title: Why turn around UPS heavy??
Post by: HAMMER_KPDX on December 24, 2005, 11:50:41 AM

Here's the completion of the flight:

(http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/534/ups9220d7mx.th.jpg) (http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ups9220d7mx.jpg)

Title: Why turn around UPS heavy??
Post by: Neil on December 25, 2005, 10:30:17 PM

My assumption would be the aircraft left without its full payload, and UPS had more to go out there. It would actually end up cheaper for them to fly back an refly it...(I guess you can check if he went back?) than to land, unlaod, and repeat...but thats just a guess.

Title: Why turn around UPS heavy??
Post by: A380-800 on December 26, 2005, 04:29:23 PM

but now i'm curious, how you do that with the fuel?
he almost complets his flight and than returns, how is that possible with fuel??

And yes, probably he forgot cargo.
Stupid mistake!