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Air Traffic Monitoring => Listener Forum => Topic started by: phat_farm on April 28, 2005, 12:53:34 PM
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hi everyone, is anyone else annoyed at the number of times the toronto pearson approach controllers say'roger?' i understand controllers now need to let the pilots know they heard them, but this is the only appraoch frequency i hear this on. no other feed that i know of has the say 'roger' after EVERYTHING the pilot says. once again, there is a good reason to say 'roger' a thousand times in an hour, but it is really annoying, i betcha for the controllers as well.
http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/cyyz_twr_app.m3u
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hi everyone, is anyone else annoyed at the number of times the toronto pearson approach controllers say'roger?' i understand controllers now need to let the pilots know they heard them, but this is the only appraoch frequency i hear this on. no other feed that i know of has the say 'roger' after EVERYTHING the pilot says. once again, there is a good reason to say 'roger' a thousand times in an hour, but it is really annoying, i betcha for the controllers as well.
http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/cyyz_twr_app.m3u
You're not the only one. Personally, I think it is unnecessary in more than 95% of the cases, since the readbacks are almost always correct. But I have found that this is unique to some ATC facilities in Canada (especially Toronto) as I have never heard it anywhere else.
-dave
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..... no other feed that i know of has the say 'roger' after EVERYTHING the pilot says. once again, there is a good reason to say 'roger' a thousand times in an hour, but it is really annoying, i betcha for the controllers as well.
I'm probably stating the obvious to most, but Toronto is in Canada not the US.
The rules for Canadian controllers, although similar in many areas, are not identical to those of American controllers.
Canadian controllers will acknowledge the receipt of instructions and clearances read back by the aircraft as confirmation they are correct.
Technically the aircraft's call sign should be used as well, however, as you've probably noticed, Toronto arrival and departure can get a bit hectic at times, and the aircraft call sign is often dropped so all you are left with is "Roger".
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There is a lady who sounds German and she's training on the Yardley 55 Sector for New York Center. And whenever someone reads back, she always says "Rogah". It's very annoying :wink: