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Offline daru1

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SW 737 slid off runway at KMDW
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2005, 12:58:00 PM »
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sorry, but an ils has you land at the beginning of the TDZ, that's the point of a precision approach, if you go watch where the wheels hit on a catagory 3 approach (0/0) you'll see it's usually at that mark, in visual conditions the numbers, on a precision you should get to that mark...

regardless, still doesn't change that fact that the death shouldn't have happened...


I know what the TDZ is, the approch wasen't 0/0. When visual contact is made and there is know ice/snow on the runway (at MDW), they are "supposed" to land on the threshold to supply that extra 1,000 feet or so. I've heard it from a few pilots that work for COA, SWA and the likes. And just to correct you, the TDZ is next to the glideslope antenna.


i didn't say this was a 0/0 i said watch where the wheels touch on that approach, and yes it's because the glidescope "aims" to that point.  it doesn't matter what those pilots say because that's a company policy, not an FAA one, which is what the NTSB will compare this incident to...   go look at previous reports about long landings and you will see what i'm talking about
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SW 737 slid off runway at KMDW
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2005, 02:02:53 PM »
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Personally, I  think the pilot overshot his ILS and landed to late on the runway.



How in the world can you even make such a statement?

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« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2005, 09:40:39 AM »
Sorry. I should keep my mouth shut because I'm not even flying yet and am not instrument rated but I was honestly just speculating what coiuld have happened. Ive been reading up alot about ILS approachs since and your right, how could I say that? email me and we can talk further if you would like.
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just a follow up
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2005, 11:28:29 PM »
Back in New Orleans, where I belong :P

anywho... just stopped in briefly to show you guys this: http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/nation/13417692.htm
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Offline Ronski

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SW 737 slid off runway at KMDW
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2005, 12:20:03 PM »
Well, that puts an end to all the speculation.

Thanks.
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« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2005, 07:36:21 PM »
Yup!
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Offline Sirclown82

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« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2005, 10:59:33 AM »
I dont think that tailwind landings are rare with WN. I have heard WN in LIT land with a 15 knot tailwind before so they could make an ontime arrival. Is that legal?
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Offline Ronski

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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2005, 02:54:38 PM »
I believe that tail winds of less than 8 knts are ok on the prefered 27 runways at London EGLL. ( for landings, that is )
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2005, 03:09:02 PM »
Every facility varies. It would be in the facilties runway directives.