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Offline busy

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Set or fly
« on: April 07, 2006, 12:56:56 AM »
Hello,
I teach phraseology to Russian pilots. Can anybody tell me if there's any difference between phrases "Set heading 090" and "Fly heading 090" giving instructions to pilots? The latter seems to be more correct as it is prescribed by Doc 4444. And what concerns me I insist on it. But does it really matter how to issue this instruction? really interested in english-speaking pilots' views.

Thank you
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Offline dave

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Set or fly
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2006, 05:55:49 AM »
At least here in the U.S. and Canada, "fly heading xxx" is the correct phraseology.

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Offline KSYR-pjr

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Re: Set or fly
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2006, 08:07:38 AM »
Quote from: busy
But does it really matter how to issue this instruction? really interested in english-speaking pilots' views.


At best, improper phraseology on the frequency can lead to frequency congestion as either controller or pilot looks for clarification, a repeat of instruction, etc.  At worst, improper phraseology can lead to accidents and fatalities.

In this pilot's opinion, I hope you accept nothing less than proper phraseology.  

Here are some articles written by a former ATC safety specialist and US-based controller (my favorite web-based author) regarding pilot/controller communication:

Say Again? #1:  A Wing and a Prayer -
http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182633-1.html

Say Again? #7: ATC 102 — Blue Sky IFR:
http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182639-1.html

Say Again? #20:  Communications — The Top Ten:
http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182710-1.html

Offline w0x0f

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Set or fly
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2006, 10:45:46 AM »
Here is what the FAA air traffic handbook says:

http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/ATC/Chp5/atc0506.html#5-6-2

Please feel free to look throughout that publication for proper phraseology.

w0x0f