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Offline PIT

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Relocated Threshold
« on: August 22, 2006, 12:56:06 AM »
What is a relocated threshhold?, i know it says it in its name but. what are some reasons they relocate it? i ask this because runway 28R at PIT has been like this ever since Wings Over Pittsburgh.



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Re: Relocated Threshold
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2006, 03:57:37 PM »
What is a relocated threshhold?, i know it says it in its name but. what are some reasons they relocate it?

Without knowing the specifics at PIT and until someone comes along who will, the reasons for a relocated threshold can include runway lengthening, temporary obstructions off the approach end (such as a crane), or partial runway repair/repainting.


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Re: Relocated Threshold
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2006, 04:05:12 PM »
What is a relocated threshhold?, i know it says it in its name but. what are some reasons they relocate it?

Without knowing the specifics at PIT and until someone comes along who will, the reasons for a relocated threshold can include runway lengthening, temporary obstructions off the approach end (such as a crane), or partial runway repair/repainting.



Don't know anything about PIT, but I just pulled the PIT NOTAM file and it looks like the ILS for 10L and 28R, as well as the touchdown lighting are down until the 14th of September.  Very possible they are doing upgrades/repairs to the ILS and lighting systems.

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Re: Relocated Threshold
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2006, 05:31:20 PM »

1. Relocation of a Threshold. Sometimes construction, maintenance, or other activities require the threshold to be relocated towards the rollout end of the runway.  When a threshold is relocated, it closes not only a set portion of the approach end of a runway, but also shortens the length of the opposite direction runway...

I'm not sure why PITs threshold was relocated but that's what a relocated threshold looks like, not to be confused with a displaced threshold.

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Re: Relocated Threshold
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2006, 09:24:28 PM »
I'm not sure why PITs threshold was relocated but that's what a relocated threshold looks like, not to be confused with a displaced threshold.

An over run area is being built on the departure end of 10L at PIT. 

The reason the threshold is relocated instead of displaced is so that departures do not apply takeoff thrust and blow the workers away when departing 28R.

From the AIM:
1. Relocation of a Threshold. Sometimes construction, maintenance, or other activities require the threshold to be relocated towards the rollout end of the runway. (See FIG 2-3-3.) When a threshold is relocated, it closes not only a set portion of the approach end of a runway, but also shortens the length of the opposite direction runway. In these cases, a NOTAM should be issued by the airport operator identifying the portion of the runway that is closed, e.g., 10/28 W 900 CLSD. Because the duration of the relocation can vary from a few hours to several months, methods identifying the new threshold may vary. One common practice is to use a ten feet wide white threshold bar across the width of the runway. Although the runway lights in the area between the old threshold and new threshold will not be illuminated, the runway markings in this area may or may not be obliterated, removed, or covered.

2. Displaced Threshold. A displaced threshold is a threshold located at a point on the runway other than the designated beginning of the runway. Displacement of a threshold reduces the length of runway available for landings. The portion of runway behind a displaced threshold is available for takeoffs in either direction and landings from the opposite direction. A ten feet wide white threshold bar is located across the width of the runway at the displaced threshold. White arrows are located along the centerline in the area between the beginning of the runway and displaced threshold. White arrow heads are located across the width of the runway just prior to the threshold bar, as shown in FIG 2-3-4.


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Re: Relocated Threshold
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2006, 10:30:08 PM »
Ahh, thanks for the explanation guys. hey W0X0f do you know of any more field projects comming up?

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Re: Relocated Threshold
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2006, 11:02:39 AM »
Ahh, thanks for the explanation guys. hey W0X0f do you know of any more field projects comming up?

This over run area should be it for this construction season.  They surprised us last fall with some concrete block replacement on taxiways T & V and their connectors to the ramp.  Seems they had some extra federal $ that was in the use or lose category.  Not sure if they'll do that again.  They don't run these things through me  :lol:

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