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Title: quick question about bAe 146 ..
Post by: Аэрофлот Jr. on November 25, 2008, 05:25:11 PM
does bAe 146 have reverse thrust ? i know its dumb to think no reverse with jet engines.. but i havnt see pic/video of bae 146 when reverse thrust is on  .  thanks
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w287/fpx2/bAeAvro146-1.jpg)
Title: Re: quick question about bAe 146 ..
Post by: ect76 on November 26, 2008, 06:31:10 PM
The BAe 146/Avro RJ series are not equipped with thrust reversers.
They do, however, have a funky tail spoiler that comes out on landing to help slow.

You know, I love the look of the Avro (Like a mini-jumbo!) & I've seen hundreds of these takeoff and land at EDI (every second flight is a BA/AF(cityjet) Avro), and it didn't even occur to me they aren't reverser equipped.

It's amazing how quickly they slow even without reversers though. :mrgreen:

For more info see this thread over on PPRuNe. http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/351269-bae-146-tail-spoiler-finals.html

Title: Re: quick question about bAe 146 ..
Post by: Аэрофлот Jr. on November 26, 2008, 08:54:27 PM
The BAe 146/Avro RJ series are not equipped with thrust reversers.
They do, however, have a funky tail spoiler that comes out on landing to help slow.

You know, I love the look of the Avro (Like a mini-jumbo!) & I've seen hundreds of these takeoff and land at EDI (every second flight is a BA/AF(cityjet) Avro), and it didn't even occur to me they aren't reverser equipped.

It's amazing how quickly they slow even without reversers though. :mrgreen:

For more info see this thread over on PPRuNe. http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/351269-bae-146-tail-spoiler-finals.html


wow jet without reverser . thats amazing  :-D i saw that funky spoiler thingy deployed on youtube, and it was pretty cool  :-)  thanks for the good infos . hopefully i get to see Avros sometime   ..
Title: Re: quick question about bAe 146 ..
Post by: ect76 on November 28, 2008, 03:14:07 PM
The photo you've got above is of EI-RJH...I've seen her MANY times at edi. I've attached a link to a video of one of her Cityjet sister ships leaving edi after a quick taxi, followed by an EMB145. In fact, quite routinely we'll have 4 or 5 on stand at any one time. Avro RJs, 319(LOADS!), 737(Lots too), 320, 321, 757, EMB135/145, EMB195, Saab 340, DHC Dash-8 Q400....That's about the calibre of stuff I get to see! Edi is not the place for large airliners - The spotters went nuts when a Corsair 744 came in on a troop flight a couple of weeks ago!

If you haven't heard of Flightlevel350.com you'll love it - It's like Youtube, but solely for aviation vids.

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_BAE_Systems_146-Airline_Air_France_Aviation_Video-6713.html
Title: Re: quick question about bAe 146 ..
Post by: Аэрофлот Jr. on November 28, 2008, 05:29:26 PM
The photo you've got above is of EI-RJH...I've seen her MANY times at edi. I've attached a link to a video of one of her Cityjet sister ships leaving edi after a quick taxi, followed by an EMB145. In fact, quite routinely we'll have 4 or 5 on stand at any one time. Avro RJs, 319(LOADS!), 737(Lots too), 320, 321, 757, EMB135/145, EMB195, Saab 340, DHC Dash-8 Q400....That's about the calibre of stuff I get to see! Edi is not the place for large airliners - The spotters went nuts when a Corsair 744 came in on a troop flight a couple of weeks ago!

If you haven't heard of Flightlevel350.com you'll love it - It's like Youtube, but solely for aviation vids.

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_BAE_Systems_146-Airline_Air_France_Aviation_Video-6713.html

thats awesome !  whats the ICAO code of EDI ?   thanks for the website , that was pretty quick taxi and take off  .
Title: Re: quick question about bAe 146 ..
Post by: fdesmet on November 28, 2008, 10:24:54 PM
FWIW, the Fokker F-28 also lacks thrust reversers.  It, too, has a funky tail-mounted clamshell speedbrake.  When I flew on an F-28 a long time ago, I asked the pilots about the lack of reversers.  They said the F-28 has strong wheel brakes which are surprisingly effective when deployed along with spoilers and the clamshell speedbrake.  Here are a couple of photos which show the F-28's deployed speedbrake:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Merpati-Nusantara-Airlines/Fokker-F-28-4000-Fellowship/1308312/M/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Linjeflyg/Fokker-F-28-4000-Fellowship/1233139/M/

Title: Re: quick question about bAe 146 ..
Post by: Аэрофлот Jr. on November 30, 2008, 01:29:31 PM
FWIW, the Fokker F-28 also lacks thrust reversers.  It, too, has a funky tail-mounted clamshell speedbrake.  When I flew on an F-28 a long time ago, I asked the pilots about the lack of reversers.  They said the F-28 has strong wheel brakes which are surprisingly effective when deployed along with spoilers and the clamshell speedbrake.  Here are a couple of photos which show the F-28's deployed speedbrake:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Merpati-Nusantara-Airlines/Fokker-F-28-4000-Fellowship/1308312/M/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Linjeflyg/Fokker-F-28-4000-Fellowship/1233139/M/



thank you much
Title: Re: quick question about bAe 146 ..
Post by: ect76 on November 30, 2008, 04:20:54 PM
ICAO code for Edinburgh is EGPH.
Title: Re: quick question about bAe 146 ..
Post by: Аэрофлот Jr. on November 30, 2008, 04:23:20 PM
ICAO code for Edinburgh is EGPH.

ohh edinburghh   thankss .