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Air Traffic Monitoring => Listener Forum => Topic started by: Breton on February 27, 2006, 05:42:54 PM

Title: Portland Feed
Post by: Breton on February 27, 2006, 05:42:54 PM
What would it take to bring the portland feed to the main site and off the other sites.  This feed is very good. The feed seems to stay busy most all hours of the day. The quality is excellant and would be a nice new addition for growth for the site.
Title: Portland Feed
Post by: sean on February 27, 2006, 06:16:31 PM
Not sure what you mean... what main site/other site?
Title: Portland Feed
Post by: PHL Approach on February 27, 2006, 06:29:29 PM
Sean, there is a PDX feed that is ran similarly to how ORD was ran. Some other random site out there runs it.
Title: Portland Feed
Post by: sean on February 27, 2006, 06:44:25 PM
Gracias...  Anyone have a link?
Title: Portland Feed
Post by: IndyTower on February 28, 2006, 12:27:22 AM
Looks like this is the guy hosting the feed...

http://www.thumper.net/atc.htm

hence..."When I am not flying or carrying it with me for other purposes, I have my Radio Shack Pro-91 scanner hooked up to my spare 'puter running through some local ATC frequencies for your entertainment."

Maybe Dave or Sean or Jason would be the appropriate ones to contact him to see if he's interested to adding the feed to the site?

I did try the link from his site and it didn't work for me.  However, he also has it linked from shoutcast.com and that did work.  I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be willing to have it here also.  It is a good quality feed.

http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=932567&file=filename.pls
Title: Portland Feed
Post by: dave on February 28, 2006, 07:25:03 AM
If he wants to run it himself, there's no compelling reason to have it here.   That's why I have those links on the "Other Live ATC Links" page.

Dave
Title: Portland Feed
Post by: n57flyguy on February 28, 2006, 08:43:53 AM
lIve365 online radio has PDX, I tried to get it in the GV sictuation with the stuck gear, but it was full. PDX would be a nice addition to this website.
Title: Portland Feed
Post by: Biff on February 28, 2006, 12:05:20 PM
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If he wants to run it himself, there's no compelling reason to have it here.

I used to host my own feed before moving it here.  There are compelling reasons to do so.  Mainly the increased exposure and more listeners - which is why we provide these feeds in the first place, right?  :)

Of course, if his is down more than up, would you want it?  What's your requirement for uptime?
Title: Portland Feed
Post by: dave on February 28, 2006, 12:44:20 PM
No firm requirement for uptime, really.  Feeds that have low uptime just get ignored, unless they are near/for a major airport.  If someone approaches us and says they can only have the feed up for 1-3 hours per day, that usually isn't worth the trouble of setting someone up.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the feed, but I've approached some of the independent feeders and in some cases it can be more trouble than it's worth.
Title: Re: Portland Feed
Post by: Brad on September 22, 2006, 03:46:47 PM
Hey guys, I'm the one who runs that feed. Two reasons I didn't want to run on LiveATC.net:

1) I liked running the 24kbps/22khz instead of the 16kbps/11khz because most of my feedback has always been about the quality of the stream (and often complimenting it sounding better than the LiveATC streams), so I didn't want to 'take a step back' as it were.
2) I didn't want to run LiveATC codec in addition to my shoutcast DNAS because i have been running it from home and didn't want to commit an additional 16k to running the stream out to two servers (Comcast's upstream used to be a lot worse than it is these days).

Interesting notes about the stream:
-It has been down less than 90 hours in the last 4 years
-It averages 5 concurrent listeners during most daytime hours
-Peaked at 196 listeners during the Nike landing gear incident when the link was run on local news stations
-It runs on a server at my office (Concordia University in Portland) and is on a 20MB DS3 link.
-It has been run at 128kbps three different nights when the atc was mixed into live house/dance music for parties (which is interesting to listen to).

I just E-mailed Dave a few minutes ago about the LiveATC client specs. I am considering splitting the stream into two separate streams using a Pro-91 and a Pro-94 scanner I already have on a system with 2 sound cards. One stream would be for CTR/Tracon ops, the other for TWR/GND. I am also considering relocating the scanners and encoding computer to my office. My home is 3 miles from the airport, over a small ridge, but my office is less than a mile from the airport and I have line-of-site to the tower/runways from the roof of my office. (Video stream anyone? :))

This plan is contingent on whether the LiveATC encoder will support two simultaneous instances on one computer with two sound cards. If it doesn't, the existing stream won't change and I'll look for an opportunity to split it sometime in the future.

Not sure if anyone else has experience with this but I was also thinking of getting a Pro-2052 and trying to write some software so that listeners could control the scanner. Not sure how badly abused that would be, but it might be a fun experiment :)

Enjoy and much respect to Dave and his crew for all their work with LiveATC.net and their support of VATSIM, you guys rock!

Brad Metzler
Air Traffic Manager - Seattle (VATSIM)
http://www.seaartcc.net/
http://www.thumper.net/atc.htm
Title: Re: Portland Feed
Post by: dave on September 22, 2006, 03:58:47 PM
Hi Brad-

I'll reply here since others may be interessted in this as well.  The modified version of Stream Transcoder that we run (thanks for the mods from Aaron, our Cleveland feeder) does support multiple soundcards and multiple instances.  Each configuration is stored in the registry and each instance of Stream Transcoder can reference a single configuration.

I will send you more details via email.

Thanks for the inquiry.

-Dave