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Offline Emby330

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No more feeds in France ?
« on: October 14, 2022, 10:56:20 AM »
Hello,

It's been a few days that all french feeds disappeared from LiveATC. Is there any bug or any restrictions requested by the french authorities?

Thank you.



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Re: No more feeds in France ?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2022, 11:28:07 AM »
We are involved in a dispute with the aviation authority in France. All feeds are offline until that dispute is resolved. We have sent a response to the authority and they seem to be refusing to respond. The basis for their claim is also questionable and doesn’t seem to have solid legal footing at all.


Offline nefethael

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Re: No more feeds in France ?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2022, 11:48:04 AM »
Hope it will be resolved nicely without too much fight  :|

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Re: No more feeds in France ?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2022, 12:05:25 PM »
Hello Dave,

Thank you for this information.

I hope the outcome to be favorable 🙏

Offline LFLP

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Re: No more feeds in France ?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2022, 02:54:11 AM »
Hello Dave,

Any news regarding dispute with DGAC?

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Re: No more feeds in France ?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2023, 03:49:35 PM »
Hello,

Still no news ?

Thanks

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Re: No more feeds in France ?
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2023, 05:41:59 PM »
We are involved in a dispute with the aviation authority in France. All feeds are offline until that dispute is resolved. We have sent a response to the authority and they seem to be refusing to respond. The basis for their claim is also questionable and doesn’t seem to have solid legal footing at all.

Hello Dave, do you have any news about the case ? Thank you.

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Re: No more feeds in France ?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2023, 04:27:45 PM »
There is no current news. Attached is a copy of the complaint.

It really has no basis in law as someone who transmits over open airwaves without encryption has no reasonable expectation of privacy. They are alleging that air traffic controllers can be personally identified by the fact that they merely issue instructions to pilots over the air (voluntarily, because they chose their job). It is a ludicrous assertion.

All the while, France passed this legislation today: France: New security law risks dystopian surveillance state

We have been in contact with at least two other French aviation groups that are quite surprised and angered at this development.