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Air Traffic Monitoring => Listener Forum => Topic started by: Fliifast on August 25, 2009, 02:53:47 PM
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Do we have live Shanwick coverage for the Nav tracks?
Fliifast
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Pray tell, where is Shanwick?
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There isint
An idea I dabbled with but was not succesful
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oh a good night you can pick up Shanwick over on the HF Atlantic NAT tracks feed, that's if the feed is on the right freq at the time. However the feed is set to follow the sun spot and frequently jumps, so you can get a variety of Gander, Shanwick, Santa Maria and New York.
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http://d.liveatc.net/hf_atlantic.m3u
is the URL for the NAT Track feed. I run this feed from my house. Right now it is locked on 5598 kHz but soon it will auto-update hourly as it used to.
Trying to adjust for seasonal HF propagation changes and it is a time-consuming process.
For now willing to take requests if you have a favorite freq. Only interesting at night, generally.
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The answer to the location of Shanwick is not as easy as it might seem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanwick
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Thanks for the link. Are the Irish ATC's gov't employees or privatized?
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Thanks for the link. Are the Irish ATC's gov't employees or privatized?
They're part of the Irish Aviation Authority which is a state owned company.
So essentially they're government employees.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Aviation_Authority
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Hi,
I have been to Shanwick many times so know about the place fairly well. I have some photos as well and once I get a chance, I will upload them. It is physically located about 15 miles North of Shannon Airport at a place called Ballygireen. Google location should be this: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Ballygirreen,+County+Clare,+Ireland&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=39.507908,67.587891&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FX5XJQMdZr53_w&split=0&ll=52.751535,-8.911049&spn=0.003708,0.00825&t=h&z=17
Shanwick (a concatenation of Shannon and Prestwick) handles all the Atlantic traffic leaving or entering Europe, till 30 degrees West when Gander takes over. It does that by transcoding pilot originating position data from voice to data so that controllers at Prestwick operate "live" northatlantic taffic data. Not all planes use HF these days. Many have switched to satellite CPDLC (Controller to Pilot Data Link Control - Lufthansa, United, SAS etc) but even these need to stay connected on HF and get voice checked at 30 degrees west.
Shanwick runs a battery of 10KW HF transmitters, derated to 5KW, using NAT-A, B, C, E, F family frequencies. You can listen to Shanwick using online radio on Echolink (if you are a radio ham - there are two HF receivers on Echolink - France and Germany) or on HF receivers you can access here: http://www.globaltuners.com/
Peter
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Hi,
I have been to Shanwick many times so know about the place fairly well. I have some photos as well and once I get a chance, I will upload them. It is physically located about 15 miles North of Shannon Airport at a place called Ballygireen. Google location should be this: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Ballygirreen,+County+Clare,+Ireland&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=39.507908,67.587891&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FX5XJQMdZr53_w&split=0&ll=52.751535,-8.911049&spn=0.003708,0.00825&t=h&z=17
Shanwick (a concatenation of Shannon and Prestwick) handles all the Atlantic traffic leaving or entering Europe, till 30 degrees West when Gander takes over. It does that by transcoding pilot originating position data from voice to data so that controllers at Prestwick operate "live" northatlantic taffic data. Not all planes use HF these days. Many have switched to satellite CPDLC (Controller to Pilot Data Link Control - Lufthansa, United, SAS etc) but even these need to stay connected on HF and get voice checked at 30 degrees west.
Shanwick runs a battery of 10KW HF transmitters, derated to 5KW, using NAT-A, B, C, E, F family frequencies. You can listen to Shanwick using online radio on Echolink (if you are a radio ham - there are two HF receivers on Echolink - France and Germany) or on HF receivers you can access here: http://www.globaltuners.com/
Peter
Awesome. I'd love to see some photos. I've always been curious as to what the operations of Shanwick looks like and my searches on google haven't yielded any results.
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I think I drove right by the place a few years back. Lovely area of one of the world's most beautiful countries.
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Hi,
I have been to Shanwick many times so know about the place fairly well. I have some photos as well and once I get a chance, I will upload them. It is physically located about 15 miles North of Shannon Airport at a place called Ballygireen. Google location should be this: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Ballygirreen,+County+Clare,+Ireland&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=39.507908,67.587891&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FX5XJQMdZr53_w&split=0&ll=52.751535,-8.911049&spn=0.003708,0.00825&t=h&z=17
Shanwick (a concatenation of Shannon and Prestwick) handles all the Atlantic traffic leaving or entering Europe, till 30 degrees West when Gander takes over. It does that by transcoding pilot originating position data from voice to data so that controllers at Prestwick operate "live" northatlantic taffic data. Not all planes use HF these days. Many have switched to satellite CPDLC (Controller to Pilot Data Link Control - Lufthansa, United, SAS etc) but even these need to stay connected on HF and get voice checked at 30 degrees west.
Shanwick runs a battery of 10KW HF transmitters, derated to 5KW, using NAT-A, B, C, E, F family frequencies. You can listen to Shanwick using online radio on Echolink (if you are a radio ham - there are two HF receivers on Echolink - France and Germany) or on HF receivers you can access here: http://www.globaltuners.com/
Peter
Peter,
I don't know whether you are on Facebook however I have recently set up a Facebook page for Shanwick Radio (http://www.facebook.com/groups.php#/group.php?v=info&gid=48113257681)
Please feel free to post any of your photos on the group page.
regards,
Paul.