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Air Traffic Monitoring => Listener Forum => Topic started by: huangjian on February 20, 2011, 12:38:02 AM
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95-:Dragon maintain 260
Dragon 207 descent to FL220, hold at Canto.
Descent to FL220, hold at Canto
Dragon 207 expect ____ Canto at time 0709.
97:______9134 you can (expect?) _____ CANTO at time 0704 hour, descent to FL 160
_____ 160, ______9134.
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listen one more, please!
ATC：Air Canada 215 ___________ Canto at time 5 (minutes?)
Pilot：215 thank you！
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95:
HDA207: ...207 descending (FL) 270.
ATC: Dragon 207 descent to flight level 220. Hold at Canto.
HDA207: ...flight level 220, hold at Canto, Dragon 207.
ATC: Dragon 207 expect (to) leave Canto at time 0709.
97:
ATC: Korean Air 9132 you can expect (to) leave Canto at time 0704 hours. Descent to flight level 160.
KAL9132: Level 160, Korean Air 9132.
I'm hearing it as 9132.
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98:
ATC: Air Canada 015 (for staggering/vectoring traffic??) expect leave Canto at time 55.
ACA15: 015, thank you.
Can't really understand the part in parenthesis though.
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95-:Dragon maintain 260
Dragon 207 descent to FL220, hold at Canto.
Descent to FL220, hold at Canto
Dragon 207 expect ____ Canto at time 0709.
97:______9134 you can (expect?) _____ CANTO at time 0704 hour, descent to FL 160
_____ 160, ______9134.
Dragon 207 expect descent Canto at time 0709.
She says descento for descent to, like she's reading it from a paper....
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thank you!!!
listen one more, please!
pilot: 403 _______ (speed up?)
ATC: Cathy 403__________________.
pilot: Cathy403, thank you!
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thank you!!!
listen one more, please!
pilot: Cathay 403 may we keep our speed up?
ATC: Cathy 403 affirm you can keep your speed up (with delay ?)
pilot: Cathy403, thank you!
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hehe! thank you!
one more!please!
2:pilot:departure _____ good afternoon!______ 3195 25 thousand for 5 thousand, OCEAN-2A,
ATC: ___319 Hong kong departure identify climb and maintain 9000ft (_no speed restriction ?)
Pilot: ___________319
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2:pilot:departure this is ___31niner passing 2 thousand five hundred for 5 thousand, OCEAN-2Alpha,
ATC: ___31niner, Hong kong departure identified climb maintain 9000feet (and turn to the official)
Pilot: 10 thousand feet restriction (17 and) 31niner
Hard to understand this one....
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2:
PAL319: Departure, this is...afternoon, Philippine 319 passing 2500 for 5000, Ocean 2A.
ATC: Philippine 319, Hong Kong Departure, identified. Climb maintain 9000 feet and cancel speed restriction.
PAL319: Affirm, cancel speed restriction, Philippine 319.
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PAL319: Departure, this is...afternoon, Philippine 319 passing 2500 for 5000, Ocean 2A.
ATC: Philippine 319, Hong Kong Departure, identified. Climb maintain 9000 feet and cancel speed restriction.
PAL319: Affirm, cancel speed restriction, Philippine 319.
Yep this is correct, I filtered the audio a lot and maybe you can hear it better now..
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hehe. good! thanks for your assistance!
117. Pilot: 903 FL320 Squawk 3663.
ATC: Deerjet903 good afternoon! Radar contact maintain level 320,______________.
Pilot: DOTIM 5A DER903.
ATC: Deerjet903 (roger plan descending?)
what's mean "roger plan descending" in here
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hehe. good! thanks for your assistance!
117. Pilot: 903 FL320 Squawk 3663.
ATC: Deerjet903 good afternoon! Radar contact maintain level 320,______________.
Pilot: DOTIM 5A DER903.
ATC: Deerjet903 (roger plan descending?)
what's mean "roger plan descending" in here
Pilot: 903 FL320 Squawk 3663 (I hear 36363 though)
ATC: Deerjet903 good afternoon! Radar contact proceed level 320, cleared for the Dotim 5 approach.
Pilot: DOTIM 5A DER903.
ATC: Deerjet903 what's your planned descend speed?
Used some filter again...
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haha!"what's your planned descend speed"!
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I come here again!
listen again please!
3. ATC:042 contact radar 118.92 _______.
Pilot: runway_________. 9042,goodday!
5.ATC:9796 speed up greater than 280knots.
Pilot: speed to 280knots 9796.
7.ATC:9 39 _____ SID______ reach by BEKOL.
Pilot: 112?
8.Cathy7364 approach good afternoon _______ runway 07L, descent to 8000ft,QNH 1015
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3. no idea
5.ATC:9796 speed no greater than 280knots.
Pilot: speed 280knots 9796.
7.ATC:9 39 on the SID what level [altitude] can you reach reach by BEKOL.
Pilot: [no sure what the pilot says but i don't think it's 112}
8.Cathy7364 approach good afternoon lima is current runway 07L, descent to 8000ft,QNH 1015
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Thank you!
17.ATC:EVA808 contact radar 118.92,_________.
Pilot:8.92, EVA808,copy.
30.ATC:2901______________
pilot:________, 2901.
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Thank you!
17.ATC:EVA808 contact radar 118.92, with your speed [not positive on that one]
30.ATC:2901 stand by for your descent
pilot: standby, 2901.
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Here's my take:
3.
ATC: ...9042 contact Radar 118.92. Report speed on first contact.
CSZ9042: Ah 118092, Shenzhen 9046. Good day.
5.
ATC: Shenzhen 9796 speed not greater than 280 knots.
CSZ9796: Speed 280 knots, Shenzhen 9796.
7.
ATC: ...thansa 739 on the SID, what level can you reach by Bekol?
DLH739: ...thousand feet.
ATC: Roger.
I'm just making up the pilot transmission.
Do you still remember what time did you recored this clip? If it's around 1-2pm (local) then it is likely to be Lufthansa.
8.
ATC: Cathay 736, Approach, good afternoon. Lima is current, runway 07L, descent to 8000 feet, QNH 1015.
17.
ATC: EVA 808 contact Radar 118.92 with your speed.
EVA808: ...8.92, EVA 808, report speed.
30.
ATC: ...Eastern 2901 standby for descent.
CES2901: Standby, China Eastern 290...
I'm no professional in this, but on my side, lowering the squelch a bit did increase the ability to receive more of the transmission from the start and also at the end.
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I'm just making up the pilot transmission.
Do you still remember what time did you recored this clip? If it's around 1-2pm (local) then it is likely to be Lufthansa.
Sorry I don't remember what time in the audio clip. but it's likely to be Lufthansa.
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I'm no professional in this, but on my side, lowering the squelch a bit did increase the ability to receive more of the transmission from the start and also at the end.
I use "goldwave"software to edit these audio clips. and you?
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listen two audio clips again.please!
37：Hong Kong6880 morning identify climb to 9000ft, after turn right_______.
39. ATC: AirBridgeCargo139 when ready turn left to land, descent now 3000ft.
Pilot: ready descent left descent to 3000ft AirBridgeCargo139.
ATC: AirBridgeCargo139 QNH1021.
Pilot:AirBridgeCargo139.
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37：Hong Kong6880 morning identified climb to 9000ft, after the right turn high speed approved. [it sounds like there's another word right after "right turn" and before high speed", but I can't make it out]
39. ATC: AirBridgeCargo139 when ready turn left to LINES, descent now to 3000ft.
Pilot: ready descent left, turning left to lines descend 3000ft AirBridgeCargo139.
ATC: AirBridgeCargo139 QNH1021.
Pilot:1021 AirBridgeCargo139.
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I use "goldwave"software to edit these audio clips. and you?
Oh, so you got the audio from LiveATC.net. Sorry, I thought you used a scanner/receiver and recorded from there.
Anyway my take again for your latest request. Pretty much identical to sykocus's one.
37.
ATC: Hong Kong 680 morning, identified. Climb to 9000 feet, after the right turn on SID, high speed approved.
Like him, I can't be sure what the word is but I'm guessing it's SID.
39.
ATC: AirBridgeCargo 139, when ready, turn left to Limes, descent now to 3000 feet.
ABW139: When ready descent left turn...to the left, then to Limes. Err descend 3000 feet, AirBridgeCargo 139.
ATC: AirBridgeCargo 139 check QNH 1021.
ABW139: ...021, AirBridgeCargo 139.
I'm actually hearing the controller calling the plane as 129 instead of 139.
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haha! you are correct!
continue listen,please!
40.Dej 138 _______ climb to 250.
41.ATC:Cargo 139 flight heading 345 __________
Pilot:345 _______6500ft is wind 70 degrees _____.
ATC:______.
43-: ATC:Cargo 139 descent to 2000ft speed 180knots or greater __(to the?)___ establish.
Pilot:speed 180knots or greater _____ establish. AirBridgeCargo 139.
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40.
ATC: UPS 138 at Siera climb to flight level 250.
UPS138: Siera, climb to flight level 250, UPS 138.
41.
ATC: ...Cargo 139 fly heading 345 and request the spot wind.
ABW139: 345, spot..er..spot wind at er 6500 feet is 170 degrees er diagonal 10.
ATC: Thank you.
43.
ATC: ...Cargo 139 descend to 2000 feet, speed 180 knots or greater till establish.
ABW139: ...thousand feet, speed 180 knots or greater till establish, AirBridgeCargo 139.
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:-) thanks!
50: ATC:47 reduce speed ________.contact tower 118.4
Pilot: speed _______ _________.good morning sir.
ATC: good day!
56.pilot:Dragon 721 establish 70R.
ATC: Dragon 721 roger continue minimum speed, there’s a departure ahead_____ lining up_______.
Pilot:_______ Dragon 721.
57.Dragon 721 caution ____ program _______ aircraft ______ area.
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50: ATC:47 reduce speed, cleared direct at pilots discretion, when established contact tower 118.4 [that's what i could make out but it doesn't make a lot of sense. there should be more information in the controler's instructions]
Pilot: speed [sounds like the plane's callsign] .good morning sir.
ATC: good day!
56.pilot:Dragon 721 established 7R.
ATC: Dragon 721 roger continue minimum speed, two departure ahead, one rolling, one lining up. wind is 340 degrees at 8.
Pilot: continuing[i think] Dragon 721.
57.Dragon 721 caution ____ program ________ fluctuation. aircraft in sensitive area. [the only thing i'm confident in is "aicraft in sensitive area." She's probably saying something like "expect localizer fluctuation, aircraft in sensitive area".]
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Just to add on sykocus transcript,
50.
ATC: ...47 reduce speed, clear direct pilot discretion, when establish contact Tower South 118.4.
PAC947: ...speed for Polar 947. 18.4. Good morning sir.
ATC: Good day.
Maybe "clear direct" is in response to an early pilot request or something that was already mentioned early on.
56.
HDA721: Good morning. Dragon 721 establish er 7R.
ATC: Dragon 721 roger. Continue, minimum speed, two departure ahead, one rolling, one lining up. Wind is 340 degrees at 8.
HDA721: Reducing, Dragon 721.
57.
ATC: Dragon 721 caution threshold glide path in your com...fluctuation, aircraft in sensitive area.
I don't really understand the word right before glide path but I guess the best word to fit in is 'threshold'. May sound off a bit but I guess it's probably due to her accent.
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50.
ATC: ...47 reduce speed, clear direct pilot discretion, when establish contact Tower South 118.4.
PAC947: ...speed for Polar 947. 18.4. Good morning sir.
ATC: Good day.
what's mean "clear direct pilot discretion " in here?
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what's mean "clear direct pilot discretion " in here?
Assuming that we interpreted it correctly to be "clear direct" instead of something else, this phrase means that the pilot is allowed to fly directly to somewhere whenever he like and according to his own judgment.
So what sykocus said regarding this was that an altitude or some sort of location should accompany with this phrase such as clear direct to 2000 feet or maybe in this case clear direct (to the intermediate fix) to intercept the localizer.
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Thanks ! I have made a great progress in listening because of your help.Thank you very much!
listen two sound clips, please!
61.UPS6166_________________________________
67. ATC:Cathy 8090 report speed now.
Pilot:Cathy 8090 speed 280knots.
ATC: 8090 roger maximum (3 hundreds knots?)
Pilot: _____ (3 hundreds knots?)
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61.
ATC: UPS 6166 can you recycle your mode C transponder please? You're not giving any altitude readout.
UPS6166: Ok ah (affirm?) we'll try and squawk mode C.
Not too sure on the pilot's transmission.
67.
ATC: Cathay 090 er report your speed now.
CPA90: Cathay 090 speed 280 knots.
ATC: Cathay 090 er roger. Er maximum 300 knots.
CPA90: Lower to 300 knots, Cathay 090.
ATC: Affirm.
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what's mean "clear direct pilot discretion " in here?
I don't about know internationally, but in the US direct is only used for navigation not altitude assignments. If a controller says cleared direct "ALPHA" the pilot is to fly the plane straight to the fix "ALPHA". By saying "cleared direct ALPHA at pilot's discretion" the controller is giving the pilot freedom to delay the turn until the pilot wants to.
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61.
ATC: UPS 6166 can you recycle your mode C transponder please? You're not giving any altitude readout.
UPS6166: Ok ah (affirm?) we'll try and squawk mode C.
Not too sure on the pilot's transmission.
67.
ATC: Cathay 090 er report your speed now.
CPA90: Cathay 090 speed 280 knots.
ATC: Cathay 090 er roger. Er maximum 300 knots.
CPA90: Lower to 300 knots, Cathay 090.
ATC: Affirm.
I got something a little different on the readbacks.
UPS6166: Ok ah we'll see, we'll try something else here.
CPA90: now up to 300 knots, Cathay 090.
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I got something a little different on the redbacks.
UPS6166: Ok ah we'll see, we'll try something else here.
CPA90: now up to 300 knots, Cathay 090.
Ahh, you're definitely right. These fit the recordings much better.
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102. ATC:8708__________, touch down now ready for descent.
Pilot: ______8708
105.ATC:271 QNH 1015 descent to 3000ft clear to ILS approach runway34(VMMC), report establish _______.
Pilot:1015 descent to 3000ft clear to ILS runway34 approach report establish _________ 271
108.pilot:
ATC: go ahead
Pilot:_______________________, we can request FL300.
ATC:106 due to Guangzhou restriction ______ FL 310 is available _____ request higher after DOTMI
Pilot:________
111.__________ 1023, report_______.
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Wow this was harder to interpret than all your previous ones. Hopefully others may be about to better understand those recordings.
102.
ATC: Cathay 708 ah now expect about 40 ah miles to touchdown and ah get ready to descent.
CPA708: (Contact?)...standby descent, Cathay 708.
105.
ATC: TransAsia 371, QNH 1015, descent to 3000 feet. Clear ILS approach runway 34, report establish. Early left turn approved.
TNA371: 1015, descent 3000 feet, clear for ILS runway 34 approach ah and report establish, the early turn is approved, Asia 373..01
108.
AMU106: Air Macau 106, ah request.
ATC: Go ahead.
AMU106: Part of flight plan, we have indication of lot of (level or waypoint?) at 310 enroute towards ah Pudong. Ah any chance we can ah request level 300?
ATC: Air Macau 106 this is Guangzhou restriction. Er today only flight level 310 is available for (over some crossing?). You may request er higher after Dotmi.
AMU106: It's ah...k (I'll just was trying to make sure.?)
111.
ATC: ? now current, temperature change 1023, report runway (change or damp?).
I was thinking - isn't 1023 the QNH instead of temperature. Anyway I'm not too sure for the whole of 111.