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L30 Las Vegas TRACON feed
Josephml21:
Honestly the 120.45 freq should be dropped and replaced with 135.0
120.45 is a sector that is not used anymore and is usually combined with 125.6 or 119.4 whereas 135.0 is finals and is open 90 percent of the time.
Just a suggestion.
tyketto:
--- Quote from: Josephml21 on August 15, 2017, 09:02:17 PM ---Honestly the 120.45 freq should be dropped and replaced with 135.0
120.45 is a sector that is not used anymore and is usually combined with 125.6 or 119.4 whereas 135.0 is finals and is open 90 percent of the time.
Just a suggestion.
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there is still a section for it in the L30 SOP for KENO (the sector covered by 120.45) and frequency, but you're right; it is combined with Satellite (119.4) most of the time. Since it handles arrivals coming in AOB 7000ft, and is further east than Satellite, I can see why that's there. Also, it sequences the El Cortez arrivals.
I agree that Final would be great, but adding Final on as well as Satellite, Granite, Lake, and Final, plus Mead, Daggett, and Canyon (the departure frequencies) all on the same feed would be a bit too busy given the traffic L30 let alone KLAS gets.
If someone would be gracious enough to provide a second feed that can split those up (perhaps arrivals on one feed, departures on another). Again, we'd need a volunteer for it. My place is too far away for it (Summerlin), so on a clear day, I can get pilot side of VGT, and barely ATC side, and that's with having full squelch.
BL.
Josephml21:
I'm aware of the layout of the room, I'm a cpc in the room. I also believe that the ideal setup would be the two departures sectors and canyon on a receiver, granite and lake on one and that would leave you with sat and final.
Anyway the whole conversation came about because I was working finals a few days ago and wanted to listen to something a pilot said again and noticed there was no feed for finals.
I'm pretty close to the airport ( Silverado ranch & I 15) so if need be I could put a feed up once I get a little free time.
Also a new sop goes into effect in the 17th of August.
Thanks for the response.
tyketto:
--- Quote from: Josephml21 on August 17, 2017, 02:36:22 PM ---I'm aware of the layout of the room, I'm a cpc in the room. I also believe that the ideal setup would be the two departures sectors and canyon on a receiver, granite and lake on one and that would leave you with sat and final.
Anyway the whole conversation came about because I was working finals a few days ago and wanted to listen to something a pilot said again and noticed there was no feed for finals.
I'm pretty close to the airport ( Silverado ranch & I 15) so if need be I could put a feed up once I get a little free time.
Also a new sop goes into effect in the 17th of August.
Thanks for the response.
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Even better! I knew that with the new AIRAC cycle going into effect today that a new SOP would be coming out.
And you have a really good point, as one would think that being on the floor there, you could pull the tapes yourself to hear what was said on frequency. Interesting that you can't. By the way.. any slip ups with the runway numbering still happening? :-P
BL.
Josephml21:
No slips that I know of although I am finishing up my weekend and go back in tomorrow. I'm sure I'll say 25L or 7R a few times.
I did advise the last plane that landed on 25L that he in fact would be the last plane to touch that runway while its marked 25L, so if he would like to annotate his logbook he could. I guess I'm a nerd like that.
The SOP has been a work in progress for some time now and this will be the first time a large SOP change at Vegas will be made in something like 10+ years. Airspace and procedures are changing.
To answer your question about playbacks at the facility, it's not as easy as you'd think at larger facilities. At my last facility we had the same equipment and we (the controllers) had a password that we would use to listen to playbacks. Our password was very restricted in that we could not make recordings or make any changes to any settings, makes sense.
Here I have to get someone from management or QAQC to pull the recording and they'll sit and listen to it with me... No thanks. I don't feel like opening myself up to possibly being talked to because I said three vs tree all because I wanted to hear a pilot say thanks for something.
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