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Air Traffic Monitoring => Listener Forum => Topic started by: dave on February 05, 2007, 07:29:29 PM
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One of the long awaited Class B airports is now live!
http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/klas.m3u
Hopefully we'll get this set up as a supersite in a few months and separate a lot of the frequencies.
Thanks to the feeder who volunteered!
Dave
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Oh yeah!
It's definitely going to need some splitting. If they need help, I'll pitch in. I have all the frequencies, but just lacked a place close to drop the hardware since moving.
BL.
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Not sure what the feeder has in mind...we'll see. Thanks for volunteering. What do you have to offer for hardware, in case he doesn't see this thread?
-dave
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Just saw this and tuned in. Glad to see another excellent feed!
KP
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Not sure what the feeder has in mind...we'll see. Thanks for volunteering. What do you have to offer for hardware, in case he doesn't see this thread?
-dave
I should be able to spare a scanner, pending on what I can get for a NCT feed.
BL.
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OH SNAP! This rocks, good work guys.
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Congratulations, Dave, and a big thanks to the volunteer feeder!
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Great feed! Thanks to the volunteer.
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This is great!!! We live in Bowling Green, KY and are out here in Vegas for a bi-monthly visit and saw the new site. Thanks for the hard work in bringing this site up.
David
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Woohoo...Great feed! I live in Vegas and drive by the airport on my way to work so I can listen to arrivals/departures off of 25L/R, but wasn't able to listen to it at work. I'd love to know where in Vegas the feeder lives and what equipment he's using. I live right in the valley on the east side of town so I can only get the planes, but I can clearly pick up ZLA every once in awhile.
Thanks to the volunteer for the feed!
Donald
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Woohoo...Great feed! I live in Vegas and drive by the airport on my way to work so I can listen to arrivals/departures off of 25L/R, but wasn't able to listen to it at work. I'd love to know where in Vegas the feeder lives and what equipment he's using. I live right in the valley on the east side of town so I can only get the planes, but I can clearly pick up ZLA every once in awhile.
Thanks to the volunteer for the feed!
Donald
I'd like to know as well, as I lived in Summerlin, and couldn't get anything from McCarran, but could pick up Northtown. I've moved since, so this helps. When I go back (which is pretty well often), I make sure to sit at the parking area next to the 25s, scanner in hand and radio blasting the FM feed of tower.
BL.
P.S. Offer still stands. ;)
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Now hoping that they also Nellis AFB going on air ?? :-D
grtz
Theo
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Great Feed! I aways thought it would be cool to listen to KLAS.
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Thanks! I was hoping LAS would come online soon. Nice job! :-D
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Thanks,
For all of your support, I am happy to see the feed go so well :-)
Scanner here is a ICOM-PCR100
Antenna - Homebrew Quarter Wave Ground Plane up 30ft
PC - P2 333Mhz 64 meg ram running win 98
I am 7 miles south west of the airport
I also just got one more IC-PCR100 off ebay and will be putting up a 5/8 wave ground plane to pick up Ground/Ramp Control and Airline Ground Operations
Coming soon !
I can run my IC-PCR2500 in duel band to split frqs NOT !!!! $1000 scanner don't think so lol
Enjoy all !!
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Thanks,
For all of your support, I am happy to see the feed go so well :-)
Scanner here is a ICOM-PCR100
Antenna - Homebrew Quarter Wave Ground Plane up 30ft
PC - P2 333Mhz 64 meg ram running win 98
I am 7 miles south west of the airport
I also just got one more IC-PCR100 off ebay and will be putting up a 5/8 wave ground plane to pick up Ground/Ramp Control and Airline Ground Operations
Coming soon !
I can run my IC-PCR2500 in duel band to split frqs NOT !!!! $1000 scanner don't think so lol
Enjoy all !!
That would be why you're getting such good reception. 7 miles southwest puts you out towards the Silverton.. It would have to be that high, otherwise you're not going to get anything!
I know Dave mentioned it, but it may be better to split the freqs off so everyone can hear certain positions than have everything running off of 1 or 2 scanners. My offer still stands on if you need another..
Here's a question.. Did they do away with 125.6? They were using that for the inital approach freq. for the CLARR/KEPEC/FUZZY/SUNST arrivals before being handed to 135.0.. or is it still in use and I'm just missing it?
The really cool thing about McCarran is with the USA/AWE ops, and all their flights going out between 11:30pm and 1am. KLAS doesn't generally slow down until 1:30-2am, so it's busy at night.. REALLY busy.
BL.
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Anyone hear the "secret shuttle" to aria 51 I believe it is call sign Jannet. Not that anything but military top secret plane test go on there in the middle of the desert which is even blacked out an terraserver. :-o
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"Anyone hear the "secret shuttle" to aria 51 I believe it is call sign Jannet"
blizzard242
"it may be better to split the freqs off so everyone can hear certain positions than have everything running off of 1 or 2 scanners. My offer still stands on if you need another"
tyketto
"Here's a question.. Did they do away with 125.6? They were using that for the inital approach freq. for the CLARR/KEPEC/FUZZY/SUNST arrivals before being handed to 135.0.. or is it still in use and I'm just missing it?"
tyketto
Hemm Janet whats that ?? lol J/k anyway thanks for the offer on the scanner that was very kind of you :-) I may take you up on that as soon as I get my 5/8 wave ANT up however right now I am doing some testing with two IC-PCR100 running on the same ANT I get about a 3db loss doing that not bad if you have a strong SIG when I am ready it will have APP/DEP on one and TWR on the other thanks for the info on 125.60 I may have missed that one on the list, its on the scanner now and will see if I hear anything
O and sorry about last night if anyone was tuned scanner stopped on 121.50 for hours before I found out, it was picking up a INT freq from a PC my wife had turned on next to it. WOW....did I drop off the top 20 fast lol
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Hello
Is it also possible to start a feed of Nellis AFB, with many traffic during Red flag exercise's??
grtz
Theo
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Hello
Is it also possible to start a feed of Nellis AFB, with many traffic during Red flag exercise's??
grtz
Theo
Given where he's at (approx. 5 - 8DME SW of the LAS VOR), I don't know if he'd have line of sight with Nellis, as he'd have to make sure his signal punches through downtown Vegas, which hassome pretty tall buildings. Nellis is about 10 - 15 miles north of KLAS.. He may be able to get Nellis Approach for arrivals into VGT when they use 25 or maybe 12L/R, but anything above that, especially for Red Flag, will be UHF, nor VHF.
Tough call, and might be possible, but it's Glenn's call.
BL.
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Hello
App will be fine.
Some feed have to many freq in use, so you can hardly follow what they are talking.
So i'm already happy with app.
Hope that Glenn will start this feed.
grtz
Theo
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Yea personally I would like a tower/app split instead of using your new scanner for ramp/airline ops.
Great feed!
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Yea personally I would like a tower/app split instead of using your new scanner for ramp/airline ops.
Great feed!
Hemm.... it would seem that Live ATC listeners prefer split freqs
Noted thanks :-) in that case the guy thats selling all them IC-PCR100s on ebay is going to love me !
Only thing that stands in my way is money :-( and when you split antenna coax it will loose 3 dbs per scanner !
One other way would be to put up more antennas however the landlord would kick me out of the house LOL
Anyway I will work on it none the less :-)
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I live over by Sams Town so I'm pretty close to Nellis. I would be able to get a feed up for Nellis or even help split up the KLAS feed, but I need to get an antenna set up on my roof. Would you be able to take some pictures of your antenna setup? Most of the homes here in Vegas are about the same w/ the A/C on the roof, stucco, etc... I am thinking that would be where I'd mount the antenna, but I need to find a method to feed the wire into the house.
Thanks!
- Donald
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Some feed have to many freq in use, so you can hardly follow what they are talking.
Yea personally I would like a tower/app split instead of using your new scanner for ramp/airline ops.
I also agree with this line of thinking. Having too many busy frequencies on ONE radio makes it very difficult to follow what is going on. It's far better to concentrate on one area/sector rather than trying to scan everything at once when only one radio is available. This applies to more than a few feeds here, not just KLAS. DJ
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Hello Duckman
If you start this feed, you wil be my hero.. :-D
grtz
Theo
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Some feed have to many freq in use, so you can hardly follow what they are talking.
Yea personally I would like a tower/app split instead of using your new scanner for ramp/airline ops.
I also agree with this line of thinking. Having too many busy frequencies on ONE radio makes it very difficult to follow what is going on. It's far better to concentrate on one area/sector rather than trying to scan everything at once when only one radio is available. This applies to more than a few feeds here, not just KLAS. DJ
Ok like I said in my last post I will be setting up split Freqs however this will take some time, I am running some tests on it right now with two PCs and I am working on upgrading one PC so it can run both scanners at the same time
The only problem I am having is with the antenna if I split coax for both scanners I loose to much dbs so it looks like I will have to put up another ANT
Antennas are cheap (I make my own) however coax is not ! if anyone has some spare coax of any kind and would like to donate please let me know :-) I would need about 75 ft
Here would be the split all APP/DEP freqs on one and both RWY 19/25 TWR freqs on the other
I will keep this tread posted of my progress
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For those who are so very vocal about splitting frequencies, which we all agree is desirable, I suggest contacting the feeder and offering some assistance to help make it happen. Talk is cheap.
The feeders are kind enough to provide their location, time, and resources...to expect each of them to jump up and spend what amounts to a fair amount of money is more than a bit unreasonable.
So...instead of the criticism, if you like a particular feed, band together and help the feeder out. It's great to get the comments...but every time a great site comes up it seems we get this same spin every time. Pointing out the obvious gets old - actually do something instead!
LiveATC does do a fair amount of funding for feeds in high traffic areas (primarily Class B and busier Class C airports) - both in the form of sending spare equipment and/or providing our own Linux-based audio server(s) and a variety of receiving equipment. However, we can only do so much.
This is a great community - let's support the feeders when they show up here on the forums - and help them make their feeds better in tangible ways that make a difference. Send an extra scanner, an extra computer, antenna, whatever is needed. There is a lot of underused and/or spare stuff out there.
-dave
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Ok like I said in my last post I will be setting up split Freqs however this will take some time
Just to be clear I wasn't suggesting that you go out and put up more feeds. My point was a more logical frequency selection on the ONE radio that you currently have running. As you have it now why not just scan Tower or Approach, but not both at the same time ? The radio is currently saturated with so many busy frequencies it's impossible to listen to. Obviously more feeds would be better and of course it takes a lot of effort and resources to set up multiple feeds and I would never suggest to anyone to do that unless I was willing to help out. The number of feeds at any one location will always be up to the ability of the volunteer operator. But what I don't understand is this mentality of loading up a single radio with so many frequencies it becomes impossible to listen to, to me it just seems like a waste of all the effort the person put into setting up the single feed in the first place. I believe this was the real point that was being made when I quoted those other posts. DJ
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My post was not meant to polarize people...we all want the same thing - good quality feeds. The issue is that there are some listeners who like to follow every nuance of a single position (Tower, etc.) and others who like the variety. It only becomes an issue for the really busy airports. With the less busier airports the clear answer is to scan multiple frequencies at once...you don't miss much.
When a new feeder comes online, it's typically with a single scanner. We're happy to have the feeder do what he likes, but it seems switching from Tower one day to Approach another day provides for a very confusing user experience. Perhaps when we have the ability for feeders to change the feed listing themselves (not anytime soon), then this could make sense. But it is a much cleaner experience seeing a feed listed with the exact frequencies that are being scanned.
For any feeder close enough to Class B airports we are committed to helping get multiple receivers online and each on a separate stream.
So we don't need the obvious pointed out - we get it and we do monitor every new feed that comes in. None of this happens overnight, so welcome the new feeds and trust that things always improve. But I don't want new feeders to get scared away by all the negative criticism - it doesn't help the situation at all.
Thanks,
Dave
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But I don't want new feeders to get scared away by all the negative criticism - it doesn't help the situation at all.
I apologize for sounding critical, that wasn't my intent at all, I was just trying to provide honest feedback on frequency selection. Sorry.
Perhaps when we have the ability for feeders to change the feed listing themselves (not anytime soon), then this could make sense.
This would be the ultimate solution. I'd certainly contribute funds to help out anyone that wanted to try and get that working. DJ
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But I don't want new feeders to get scared away by all the negative criticism - it doesn't help the situation at all.
I apologize for sounding critical, that wasn't my intent at all, I was just trying to provide honest feedback on frequency selection. Sorry.
Apology accepted Thank you :-)
And on that note I deleted my previous post.....What better way to end a thread :-D
Well with the winds back in my sail again and Dave's kind words of motivation I am ready to rock & roll on this..... feeds should be up in a few weeks with Dave's approval of course.
Here is the update on the freq split
I built two new antennas today and I am ready to put them on the roof however I come home to late from work so the only time I have is on the weekends and I still need to upgrade my PC to run 2 scanners at the same time
BTW I found no difference between TV coax & good RG8 for DB loss at Air band VHF
However using a splitter was out the question hence the two antennas
I could go on and on about this but it would go beyond the scope of this thread so I will start another one soon about this subject
Thanks again for your support and I hope you all have enjoyed listening to the Las Vegas McCarran Airport as much I do.
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Im interested, My house is like 5 miles if that from KLAS, traffic flys over my house literally at 2000 ft. I would love to help with the feed, if someone could tell me te cost and how to set this up I could maybe give a feed of ground and tower? Cost effective of course at 15 years old money doesnt come around easily. I would need help on what to buy some help on putting it up.... not sure if my dad will let me put massive Antennas on the roof, but if there a relative size there is a great possibility that I would be able to do it. My contact options excluding the threads are below. If you can't contact me with all that shame on you. COME FLY WITH ME ON VATSIM ILL BE CONTROLLING KABE!!!!
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