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Offline avbuff58

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« on: April 28, 2006, 09:53:25 AM »
good morning, does anyone know the frequencies tprevious to being turned over to ny app. ie before 125.7 &-127.4 . thanks



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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2006, 12:49:09 PM »
I know arriving from the northeast on the Kennebunk and Plymouth arrivals it's Boston Center on 135.800, and from the south inbound on the CAMRN arrival it's New York Center on 118.975. I can't confirm what they are currently using inbound from the west and northwest on the LENDY and Kingston arrivals, I think on the LENDY it used to be New York Center on 128.500, then to approach on 133.35, but that might be out of date ? There's also the turboprop arrival route on the Pawling STAR, but I'm not sure what they use on that one. If anyone can provide a more detailed answer I'd be interested as well.

FYI you can pull up all the approach and arrival charts off the FAA website:

http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp

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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2006, 08:24:04 AM »
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I know arriving from the northeast on the Kennebunk and Plymouth arrivals it's Boston Center on 135.800, and from the south inbound on the CAMRN arrival it's New York Center on 118.975. I can't confirm what they are currently using inbound from the west and northwest on the LENDY and Kingston arrivals, I think on the LENDY it used to be New York Center on 128.500, then to approach on 133.35, but that might be out of date ? There's also the turboprop arrival route on the Pawling STAR, but I'm not sure what they use on that one. If anyone can provide a more detailed answer I'd be interested as well.

FYI you can pull up all the approach and arrival charts off the FAA website:

http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp

DJ


[NOTE: Post edited to reflect correct frequencies.  (A result of posting before fully awake <g>]

AFaIK, from the northeast on the ENE4 or PLYMM4, you'd get ZBW on 128.05, 134.95, 127.82, 134.525, and then NY Approach on 125.7 (ROBER sector).  Maybe your first data you posted is more recent than mine, though.

124.7 (CAMRN sector) handles aircraft a bit closer than ROBER sector.  You will hear 125.7 handoff to 124.7 all the time.  On the LENDY 5 into JFK, you would stay with ZNY on 124.825-->133.15-->NY Approach on 124.7.  I think that data regarding the NY Approach frequency on 133.35 is outdated information DJ.  Next time I go to N90 I will ask.

For the PWL 2 into JFK, the freqs aircraft on that arrival would get would be ZBW on 127.65-->128.1-->134.0 and then a handoff to NY Approach on 133.1.  That sector is called the SEALL sector and covers the airspace up to 7,000 and around the southern/western Connecticut shoreline and a bit inland.

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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2006, 01:47:29 PM »
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I know arriving from the northeast on the Kennebunk and Plymouth arrivals it's Boston Center on 135.800, and from the south inbound on the CAMRN arrival it's New York Center on 118.975. I can't confirm what they are currently using inbound from the west and northwest on the LENDY and Kingston arrivals, I think on the LENDY it used to be New York Center on 128.500, then to approach on 133.35, but that might be out of date ? There's also the turboprop arrival route on the Pawling STAR, but I'm not sure what they use on that one. If anyone can provide a more detailed answer I'd be interested as well.

FYI you can pull up all the approach and arrival charts off the FAA website:

http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp

DJ


AFaIK, from the northeast on the ENE4 or PLYMM4, you'd get ZBW on 128.05, 134.95, 127.82, 134.525, and then NY Approach on 125.8 (ROBER sector).  Maybe your first data you posted is more recent than mine, though.

127.8 (CAMRN sector) handles aircraft a bit closer than ROBER sector.  You will hear 125.8 handoff to 127.8 all the time.

On the LENDY 5 into JFK, you would stay with ZNY on 124.825-->133.15-->NY Approach on 127.8.  I think that data regarding the NY Approach frequency on 133.35 is outdated information DJ.  Next time I go to N90 I will ask.

For the PWL 2 into JFK, the freqs aircraft on that arrival would get would be ZBW on 127.65-->128.1-->134.0 and then a handoff to NY Approach on 133.1.  That sector is called the SEALL sector and covers the airspace up to 7,000 and around the southern/western Connecticut shoreline and a bit inland.

Jason


Just a correction to a typo, 125.7 is ROBER and 127.4 is CAMRN. DJ's information as for the handoffs is still up to date. CAMRN4 arrivals are handled by ZNY DIXIE 68 118.97. LENDY5/IGN7 is handled by ZNY SAX 36 133.15 and ENE4/PLYMM4 is handled by ZBW SARDI 32 135.8. Jason I assume when you said 124.825 you meant my PTW 92 sector on 124.625. Just so you know, the PTW sector doesn't touch the LENDY5. The LENDY5 is much more to the north, it goes through bits of Area C (in the middle of no where). However my sector can and does handle the MIP3 into LGA and the FQM1 into EWR during different times.

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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2006, 03:28:56 PM »
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Just a correction to a typo, 125.7 is ROBER and 127.4 is CAMRN. DJ's information as for the handoffs is still up to date. CAMRN4 arrivals are handled by ZNY DIXIE 68 118.97. LENDY5/IGN7 is handled by ZNY SAX 36 133.15 and ENE4/PLYMM4 is handled by ZBW SARDI 32 135.8. Jason I assume when you said 124.825 you meant my PTW 92 sector on 124.625. Just so you know, the PTW sector doesn't touch the LENDY5. The LENDY5 is much more to the north, it goes through bits of Area C (in the middle of no where). However my sector can and does handle the MIP3 into LGA and the FQM1 into EWR during different times.


Thanks for correcting me on the ZNY data, Ed.  I think the N90 frequency that DJ posted however is incorrect, but I cannot confirm.  I have never heard a 133.35 given to an aircraft nor could I find it in any N90 documentation I have.

ENE4/PLYMM4 isn't handled by SARDI since that is too far south/southwest and mostly covers the airspace south of LI that ERICK 33 doesn't own.  ZBW gives the x-ing restriction "CCC @ 12,000 and 250 knots" and hands off to N90 east of CCC.  They are handed off to N90 prior to the ERICK 33 / SARDI 32 boundry on the ZBW sector map, so they don't talk to SARDI.

I was actually incorrect on one frequency I posted earlier (besides the typos).  After 127.82, it would be ERICK 33 on 132.3.

Jason

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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2006, 08:33:38 PM »
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Thanks for correcting me on the ZNY data, Ed.  I think the N90 frequency that DJ posted however is incorrect, but I cannot confirm.  I have never heard a 133.35 given to an aircraft nor could I find it in any N90 documentation I have.



Hmmm.... listen to the SYR feed.  I haven't flown out of Syracuse to Teterboro in about a year, but I seem to recall that 133.35 is the NY center frequency above 10,000 feet to the south-southeast of Syracuse, NY.  SYR approach should be handing off commercial aircraft to this frequency.

I don't have time now, but tomorrow I will listen for awhile to confirm this.

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2006, 08:49:54 PM »
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Thanks for correcting me on the ZNY data, Ed.  I think the N90 frequency that DJ posted however is incorrect, but I cannot confirm.  I have never heard a 133.35 given to an aircraft nor could I find it in any N90 documentation I have.



Hmmm.... listen to the SYR feed.  I haven't flown out of Syracuse to Teterboro in about a year, but I seem to recall that 133.35 is the NY center frequency above 10,000 feet to the south-southeast of Syracuse, NY.  SYR approach should be handing off commercial aircraft to this frequency.

I don't have time now, but tomorrow I will listen for awhile to confirm this.


133.35 is the CFB 50 sector (LOW) in ZNY, but I was referring to it as DJ was - a N90 frequency:
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then to approach on 133.35

Sorry I didn't clarify that in my last post.

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2006, 08:51:07 PM »
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They are handed off to N90 prior to the ERICK 33 / SARDI 32 boundry on the ZBW sector map, so they don't talk to SARDI.


I heard several handoffs to ROBER from SARDI this afternoon.

I figured he meant to say 33.35 was ZNY and not N90. It's the CFB50 sector 090-230. But that sector is pretty low and far out to touch any N90 stuff. I assume it's all local satellite.

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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2006, 08:01:00 PM »
>> LENDY5/IGN7 is handled by ZNY SAX 36 133.15 <<

Okay thanks, I'm not sure where I had gotten 133.350 from.

>> ENE4/PLYMM4 isn't handled by SARDI since that is too far south/southwest and mostly covers the airspace south of LI that ERICK 33 doesn't own. <<

If you listen to the Boston ARTCC (Atlantic) feed, you can hear JFK arrivals on the PLYMM/ENE arrival get the handoff from 127.875 or 128.750 over to ZBW on 135.800. This is in the ERICK 33 airspace, but they don't appear to be using 132.300 anymore. I'm guessing maybe they have merged the ERICK and SARDI sectors together and now use 135.800 for both ? Or are they now using another frequency for SARDI ?

You should be able to hear all these sectors from your KBDR location. Any chance maybe you could load up 133.150, 135.800 sometime for say a day or so, and we can check them out ? DJ