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kaposznyak:
Hi guys.
My question is Europe-related.
So flying VFR, in uncontrolled airspace (Class F) with a Z-type flight plan (first VFR, later at a given point IFR) what is the standard phraseology for changing to IFR?
"Request IFR pickup?"
And most importantly what would be the answer from the flight information officer? Clearly not a clearence...
Cannot find any official source for this situation. And I am a flight information officer :-D
Thanks in advance!
VASAviation:
Hi there,
It is so simple.
-Aicraft: "At [waypoint], request change to IFR."
-ATC: "VFR cancelled at [time] zulu, [IFR instructions may follow such as vectors or altitudes]"
Regards
kaposznyak:
Thank you.
That is what I have said. Vfr cancelled at..., continue on flight plan route. There was no indication of altitude change.
But the pilot--who is a B747 captain, when working--was not satisfied.
I know he is used to hear full IFR clearences and my short answer seemed odd to him. I tried to find an official phraseology example, but was unable to find any.
Now neithet of us can prove the other wrong :?
VASAviation:
Hi,
I am a pilot from Spain and never heard of a standard phraseology for a FP rule change and we've made a few since our main base is an uncontrolled VFR-only airfield. In the US you may receive a full IFR clearance when picking it up airborne "VFR cancelled. You're cleared to the whatever airport via radar vectors. Proceed direct waypoint, maintain FLxxx"
But not in Europe. Not that I know of.
kaposznyak:
Thanks!
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