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Offline drewman76

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Houston ATC Communication "WAFFLE"
« on: August 16, 2017, 09:31:31 AM »
So I sorta understand most of the ATC lingo and such... but just wondering if any controllers could explain this... I was listening to Houston KIAH approach and multiple times they asked aircraft to "fly the waffle".  I am guessing that is a specific pattern of approach in Houston, but could anyone explain what it actually means?



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Re: Houston ATC Communication "WAFFLE"
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2017, 07:31:58 PM »
next time you hear note the date&time in UTC i'd like to hear it too :P

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Re: Houston ATC Communication "WAFFLE"
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2017, 01:29:37 PM »
Another thing to do is also mention which airport the aircraft is arriving at. There are at least 5 different airports I can think of off the top of my head in the Houston area, and while most have the same SIDs/STARs that service all of the airports, knowing which airport was the destination helps to track it down.

EDIT: Found it for you. It is the WAPPO4 arrival, into KHOU.

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KHOU
http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1709/00198WAPPL.PDF
http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1709/00198WAPPL_C.PDF
http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1709/00198WAPPL_C2.PDF

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Re: Houston ATC Communication "WAFFLE"
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 10:40:13 PM »
There are also some interesting ARNAV points they call out frequently

Departures from 15R/L at IAH:
JAYLO - Yea sounds like Jennifer Lopez...

CRTMN - Sounds like Cartman from South Park..


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Re: Houston ATC Communication "WAFFLE"
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2017, 03:11:23 PM »
There are also some interesting ARNAV points they call out frequently

Departures from 15R/L at IAH:
JAYLO - Yea sounds like Jennifer Lopez...

CRTMN - Sounds like Cartman from South Park..

There are plenty of those going around.. Case in point:

The IAP (I can't remember if it's an ILS, LOC, VOR, or RNAV/GPS approach) that has the fixes on final as ITAWT ITAWA PUTTY TTATT, or similar.

The entire ANJLL1 arrival into LAX. Fixes have CGNEY, HAKMN, DNERO, SLLRS, SHTNR, GLESN, OTOOL, BCALL, LEMMN, and CAANN. That would be James CAGNEY, Gene HACKMAN, Robert DENIRO, Peter SELLERS, William SHATNER, Jackie GLEASON, Peter O'TOOL, Lauren BECALL, Jack LEMMON, and James CAAN.

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Re: Houston ATC Communication "WAFFLE"
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2017, 01:23:15 PM »
There are two Waffle House restaurants just off of one of the runways (and three more on the other side).   Coincidence? 

Also, Houston's freeway loops look like a big waffle.  Could "Fly the Waffle" be code for "go around"?

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Re: Houston ATC Communication "WAFFLE"
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2017, 04:04:39 PM »
There are two Waffle House restaurants just off of one of the runways (and three more on the other side).   Coincidence? 

Also, Houston's freeway loops look like a big waffle.  Could "Fly the Waffle" be code for "go around"?

Definitely not. The issue here being that ATC has to use standard phraseology whenever possible substituting something like that for a go-around would definitely get some controllers into some hurt.

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Re: Houston ATC Communication "WAFFLE"
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2017, 01:16:31 PM »
There are also some interesting ARNAV points they call out frequently

Departures from 15R/L at IAH:
JAYLO - Yea sounds like Jennifer Lopez...

CRTMN - Sounds like Cartman from South Park..

There are plenty of those going around.. Case in point:

The IAP (I can't remember if it's an ILS, LOC, VOR, or RNAV/GPS approach) that has the fixes on final as ITAWT ITAWA PUTTY TTATT, or similar.

The entire ANJLL1 arrival into LAX. Fixes have CGNEY, HAKMN, DNERO, SLLRS, SHTNR, GLESN, OTOOL, BCALL, LEMMN, and CAANN. That would be James CAGNEY, Gene HACKMAN, Robert DENIRO, Peter SELLERS, William SHATNER, Jackie GLEASON, Peter O'TOOL, Lauren BECALL, Jack LEMMON, and James CAAN.

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ITAWT ITAWA PUDYE TTATT are on the RNAV 16 at KPSM Portsmouth in NH.  Some of them are used on the ILS 16 also.