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Offline AJ Long

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GSO ATCS/T Reporting Spotters...
« on: March 30, 2006, 10:15:13 PM »
Something interesting I learned today... A family member of mine spoke to some of the police officers who work over at GSO (Greensboro, Piedmont Triad Intl) about findng places to spot planes. Appears that while all official spots are closed, anywhere you go to attempt to watch them now, controllers in the TWR callup the airport police and report spotters (they find them thru the binoculars looking over the field) to have them kicked off airport property. What amazes me is it's the controllers who are reporting the spotters. Has anyone heard of anywhere else that does this? It's made me furious....



Offline ZOTAN

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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2006, 11:01:40 PM »
I doubt it is the controllers.  The towers are down to skeleton levels these days and the last thing they want to be doing up there is looking through binoculars for spotters.

Give the tower a call though and find out. If its true, tell them your interests and ask if theres anyplace you can go where they wont report you. It wont hurt.

Matt

Offline AJ Long

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2006, 12:27:40 PM »
According to the officers, thats where they get majority of their spotter reports. From the ATCT. The others they find on their patrols.

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Re: GSO ATCS/T Reporting Spotters...
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2006, 06:57:28 PM »
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Appears that while all official spots are closed, anywhere you go to attempt to watch them now, controllers in the TWR callup the airport police and report spotters (they find them thru the binoculars looking over the field) to have them kicked off airport property. What amazes me is it's the controllers who are reporting the spotters. Has anyone heard of anywhere else that does this? It's made me furious....


Well, I suppose that technically if a spotter is on airport property, officials do have the authority to remove them from the property.

However, many airports also have optimal spotting areas from just outside their property and there is no law in the US that prevents someone from watching aircraft from public land.  Is this not the case at your airport?

There was an interesting thread in the rec.aviation.piloting newsgroup last year posted by someone who was harassed by a "rent-a-cop" for parking on public property outside an airport fence to watch aircraft.   This thread was a reminder that power, in any size or form, can corrupt the individual granted the responsibility to exercise it.

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2006, 02:58:02 PM »
After the 911 tragedies, the FAA posted a notice in all the FSS about reporting any suspicious activities around an airport.

These days spotting aircraft in the vicinity of an airport is considered a "threat" for controllers, pilots and everyone between them.

Even if you are not trespassing, you may have a 3 minutes background check by a local sheriff deputy  :x  .

Offline AJ Long

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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2006, 03:27:46 PM »
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After the 911 tragedies, the FAA posted a notice in all the FSS about reporting any suspicious activities around an airport.

These days spotting aircraft in the vicinity of an airport is considered a "threat" for controllers, pilots and everyone between them.

Even if you are not trespassing, you may have a 3 minutes background check by a local sheriff deputy  :x  .


See, I dont mind the BG Check. In fact, i'd have no problem getting stopped and asked to submit for a BG Check. I just dont see why they can't do something similar to FLL. Setup a spot and have a cop park in the lot and keep an eye on the spotters.   :P

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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2006, 06:43:53 PM »
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Quote from: rb37
After the 911 tragedies, the FAA posted a notice in all the FSS about reporting any suspicious activities around an airport.

These days spotting aircraft in the vicinity of an airport is considered a "threat" for controllers, pilots and everyone between them.

Even if you are not trespassing, you may have a 3 minutes background check by a local sheriff deputy  :x  .


See, I dont mind the BG Check. In fact, i'd have no problem getting stopped and asked to submit for a BG Check. I just dont see why they can't do something similar to FLL. Setup a spot and have a cop park in the lot and keep an eye on the spotters.   :P


better yet, make 'em like LAS and VGT. Set up a spot, broadcast tower over FM radio, and have the county or police patrol the airport side of the fence. That way we all get what we want. :)

BL.