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Offline rvr1000

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« on: August 07, 2004, 09:48:05 PM »
Just want to say thanks for LiveATC.net.

Very happy to see DTW added to the list(thank you also "capntoo".....)

I'm about 70 north of DTW on the flightpath for mostly westbound traffic going into O'Hare.  I like to track the airline traffic on my scanner, the contrails in the morning(due to lots of eastcoast/O'hare traffic) can be pretty spectacular(well, on the few occasions in MI when it's not cloudy that is 8) ).

I use the following freq. sequence....125.77-133.87-126.125-133.2(barely) before I lose them over Lake MI.

I believe 133.87 is the freq. as aircraft transition from Toronto Center to Cleveland Center on the route to ORD, however I do not always get their preceding transmissions on 125.77. I've tryed to scan the entire aircraft band trying to find this "mysterious missing freq." but no luck.

Oh well, if anyone may think they know this freq.(southern ontario/northern lake erie going west) i'd appreciate it.

Again, thanks to all for LiveATC.



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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2004, 03:39:09 AM »
I always hear Minny Center hand aircraft over to Cleveland Center 133.87.    If you listen to the TVC feed, I have the high altitude freqs in. I believe the Peck VOR is in this area.    I was under the impression that 133.87 covered the thumb and southeast Michigan

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2004, 05:34:12 PM »
You are correct. If you split the lower Peninsula into 4 sections 133.87 would pretty much cover the SE quadrant. The far southern section of that quadrant though is(I believe) 134.77(Cleveland Center....a lot of NY/east coast bound traffic there). Minneapolis Center seems to cover the NW\NE parts with Chicago Center picking up the SW quadrant(126.12/132.27).

I don't have a very good antenna(just the stock on the scanner itself)so at best I pick up aircraft(high alt)within about a 130 mile radius of my location. I know ATC will split it's feeds from time to time depending on traffic volume so perhaps that why I don't always start picking up the west-bound traffic(over Ontario)on 125.77.

If these aircraft follow J574 then the frequency i'm looking for would be somewhere between BUF(buffalo)and YXU(london).

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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2004, 04:19:22 AM »
Look at Radio Shacks antennas.  I bought a decent one for right around $25.00.  It goes from the scanner vai coax to a piece that is stuck on the window, and then you just stick the antenna on the outside of the window.  It made a world of difference.

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2004, 11:18:48 PM »
Thanks for the info.

I've got an old Radio Shack model PRO-2002 that I bought out in California way back when the space shuttle missions first started in order to listen to JPL Repeater\NASA_Mission Control. It's still a pretty powerful unit, even with it's default antenna.

Also(up in a garage attic)is another newer(well-mid 80's) Radio Shack(model?)that I have connected to a external antenna.  I do get a bit more distance with the external antenna scanner, however out here in the sticks the difference is pretty negligible. As usual atmospheric conditions also weigh in on reception.

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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2004, 04:58:15 PM »
>> if anyone may think they know this freq.(southern ontario/northern lake erie going west) i'd appreciate it. <<

Last time I checked, a few months ago, Toronto triple stacks that sector during periods of peak traffic volume. 125.775 is used FL290 and below, 134.925 is used between FL310 and FL350, and 135.825 is used FL370 and above.

Toronto seems to be changing some of their frequencies around recently, so not sure how up to date that info is, but it was what they were using a few months ago. Any updates appreciated.  

JS1

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2004, 05:28:06 AM »
Just wanted to reiterate the kudos’ on the website. The best by far. Though airband fascination can be very parochial, I hope this site and forum become a success.

An idea. Is there a site where contributors can submit their favourite ATC recordings or listen to the contributions of others?

Cheers

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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2004, 09:15:18 AM »
Quote from: Jane G
Just wanted to reiterate the kudos’ on the website. The best by far. Though airband fascination can be very parochial, I hope this site and forum become a success.

An idea. Is there a site where contributors can submit their favourite ATC recordings or listen to the contributions of others?

Cheers

Jane G


I had started a section for this Jane but got a bit sidetracked.  It will be coming, hopefully soon.

In the interim,  if anyone would like to contribute clips, please email them to me with a description of each.

-Dave

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2004, 08:35:06 PM »
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If these aircraft follow J574 then the frequency i'm looking for would be somewhere between BUF(buffalo)and YXU(london).


well being from buffalo, and knowing the buffalo traffic and the arrival to the LIING intersection to CYYZ, that frequency on J547 is Toronto Centre 133.3...Just south of that is Cleveland Center 125.2

u got the right frequency west of london, but toronto doesnt stack the planes descending into Toronto from the south or west on 133.3. Plus, usually the planes are already at FL210 or lower, so the descent to 10,000 to the LIING intersection cant be stacked.

The planes arriving into Buffalo are already below the planes flying into Toronto. The planes flying over Buffalo to Rochester however have to fly over Buffalo at 11,000 to aviod Toronto traffic which would seem weird but that's what they do I have a friend at the KBUF tower that told me he doesnt even know why they do that but that's what has to be one.