has a mini recordr in possesion but wouldnt know how to dl it to the puter Ed. By the way came back from cancun this past saturday and pssed overhead phl and northeast phl airports. saw a takeoff from27 at phl plane lookes like a gray emb-145(prob waterski or chautaqua). PHL looked so sweet from above flew aboard cont flight 1735 coming up and 1730 going down we scraped the outer bands of katrina in flight and has a few squalls down by cancun