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Offline valo_j

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« on: April 13, 2006, 01:30:32 PM »
hello to all guys

i'm a tower controller come from China
and i'm a fish here :)

i don't know about the "side-step maneuver"
is there anyone can make a explanation to me ?  thx for the help!



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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2006, 01:58:06 PM »
A side-step is when an aircraft is on an approach to one runway of a parallel set of runways, and then ATC approves a side-step maneuver to the parallel runway.  The aircraft simply joins the final approach of the parallel runway.

Hope this helps.

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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2006, 07:08:49 PM »
I hope I never have to fly in China  :shock:
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2006, 12:31:00 AM »
thx for the reply

but it has any relationship with the space between the parallel runways?

or operate in different model?

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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2006, 12:40:38 AM »
Quote from: valo_j
thx for the reply

but it has any relationship with the space between the parallel runways?

or operate in different model?


I hope I can answer your question with the definition from the Pilot/Controller Glossary:

Quote from: Pilot/Controller Glossary
SIDESTEP MANEUVER- A visual maneuver accomplished by a pilot at the completion of an instrument approach to permit a straight-in landing on a parallel runway not more than 1,200 feet to either side of the runway to which the instrument approach was conducted.

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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2006, 12:42:04 AM »
to ZOTAN


have you been to china?

the controller's english is poor but it's safe when you have learned the chinese ... :lol:


p.s. i haven't acquired the atc licence
im still in the probation period
but there's 3months left
i will study hard to improve my english :?

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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2006, 12:44:39 AM »
thank you jason
quite clear

Offline PIT

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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2006, 12:44:48 AM »
and i thought it was hard to learn german

Offline ZOTAN

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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2006, 02:38:48 AM »
Valo,

Hehe, I wasn't trying to insult your English. Your english sounds fine. I was just commenting on how you didn't know what a sidestep was. Its understandable though If you are still in the probabational period.

Ive never been to China but hope to travel there one day. Who knows, maybe one day Ill be flying for Cathay Pacific. They seem to be doing a lot better than the US airlines.
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2006, 08:59:04 AM »
Quote from: ZOTAN
Who knows, maybe one day Ill be flying for Cathay Pacific. They seem to be doing a lot better than the US airlines.


Well, Emirates do lot better than Cathay, would you fly for them?  :D

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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2006, 11:28:17 AM »
ZOTAN,


we use different language,so we have different manners of expression

things could be different ,you know ,in comprehension

so we need to communicate


 anyway,if you come to my country for travel someday
maybe i could be your guide :)

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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2006, 12:16:47 PM »
Ill keep that in mind.  :P
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2006, 03:46:25 PM »
Zotan,

   I thought you were going to say," I'll sidestep that one" :wink:
"Who am I to blow against the wind"

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2006, 12:41:46 AM »
you guys are cute  :D

I love chinese people, they are cool.

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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2006, 01:10:15 AM »
valo_j, I have a question, if I may ask you...

I've been told that the in the Chinese language, pronunciation and tone are very critical. The same word can have a very different meaning if spoken even a little differently.

Are any of your radio communicatons done in Chinese, and if so, does this present any problems? (We all know that sometimes poor radio reception can make it difficult to understand some words. I can only imagine that the issue would be made worse if the speaker's tone were important too.)

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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2006, 01:50:05 AM »
digger



in fact

the differences of pronunciation and tone  bring about few of problems
because the gov. established lot of rules to reduce it
and that the controllers' spoken english was improved especially in big city

 troubles come from the customs sometimes
for example , we use the "hold position "to stop the aircraft,
but in america, "hold in position " seems to be the clearance for "line up"
at the holding point ..."holding position "or "hold in position "? cofused..

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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2006, 02:03:14 AM »
something you maybe interest


there are only one airport in china which is operating the Independent Parellel Instrument Approach, beijing capital

there are three airports in china which have parellel runways
Beijing capital, Shanghai pudong and Guangzhou baiyun
the segregated operation is doing at Pudong

.....
hehe
we are on the start..