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Offline avbuff58

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new JFK departure routes
« on: October 20, 2011, 07:47:52 AM »
does anybody have any info on new dep. routes out of JFK Iheard all planes now head east over long island before being turned . thanks
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Offline aevins

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Re: new JFK departure routes
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 11:47:51 AM »
Aircraft going to J60 and J64 get "wrapped" around the TRACON. This enables more efficient climbs and reduces airspace constraints and complexity in ZNY39/55 by aligning JFK departures with new westgates It's called the DEEZZ1 Departure,

http://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1111/00610DEEZZ.PDF
http://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1111/00610DEEZZ_C.PDF
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Offline aevins

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Re: new JFK departure routes
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 11:48:22 AM »
These aircraft used to be sent over RBV, this will reduce the demand over RBV.
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Offline NY Z Pilot

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Re: new JFK departure routes
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2011, 11:28:48 AM »
Yes, and itll add depts to the primary dept rwy, which will build delays.
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Offline Jason

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Re: new JFK departure routes
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2011, 04:57:04 PM »
They also started the WHITE/WAVEY shuffle during peak JFK departure periods meaning aircraft filed out of JFK/FRG over WAVEY will be assigned WHITE and aircraft off LGA/HPN filed over WHITE will be assigned WAVEY.

NEWEL will be the new west gate for aircraft filed on J60/J64 and was named after ELIOT (hence "New Elliot" or "Newel").
« Last Edit: October 22, 2011, 04:59:48 PM by Jason »
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Offline aevins

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Re: new JFK departure routes
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2011, 07:51:57 PM »
Quote from: Jason on October 22, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
NEWEL will be the new west gate for aircraft filed on J60/J64 and was named after ELIOT (hence "New Elliot" or "Newel").

NEWEL is only accessible from EWR, LGA, and their sats. NEWEL is not accessible from JFK/FRG. To get to J60 from JFK/FRG it's DEEZZ1.CANDR.J60, and to get to J64 it's DEEZZ1.CANDR.J60.DANNR..RAV.J64.
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Offline Jason

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Re: new JFK departure routes
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2011, 09:50:47 PM »
Quote from: aevins on October 22, 2011, 07:51:57 PM
NEWEL is only accessible from EWR, LGA, and their sats. NEWEL is not accessible from JFK/FRG. To get to J60 from JFK/FRG it's DEEZZ1.CANDR.J60, and to get to J64 it's DEEZZ1.CANDR.J60.DANNR..RAV.J64.

Correct. NEWEL is on J60, 10nm past CANDR.
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Offline glencar

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Re: new JFK departure routes
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 04:59:13 PM »
Quote from: Jason on October 22, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
They also started the WHITE/WAVEY shuffle during peak JFK departure periods meaning aircraft filed out of JFK/FRG over WAVEY will be assigned WHITE and aircraft off LGA/HPN filed over WHITE will be assigned WAVEY.


Nope. The WAVEY Shuffle hasn't been used for months & is no longer to be used.
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Offline aevins

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Re: new JFK departure routes
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2011, 05:05:15 PM »
Quote from: glencar on October 28, 2011, 04:59:13 PM
Quote from: Jason on October 22, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
They also started the WHITE/WAVEY shuffle during peak JFK departure periods meaning aircraft filed out of JFK/FRG over WAVEY will be assigned WHITE and aircraft off LGA/HPN filed over WHITE will be assigned WAVEY.


Nope. The WAVEY Shuffle hasn't been used for months & is no longer to be used.

So parts c and d of N90 N7100.953 are canned?
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