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Title: Birds
Post by: TexasListener on December 15, 2007, 03:02:12 PM

New listener here.

Sometimes I've heard ATC inform pilots of birds at a certain altitude.

Here's my question:

What is a pilot supposed to do with that information?

Title: Re: Birds
Post by: Jason on December 15, 2007, 03:45:00 PM

Essentially, use caution and attempt to avoid them.

Title: Re: Birds
Post by: Fryy/Avocadoflight on December 15, 2007, 03:54:17 PM

not hit them. my instructor had a hawk go through the windshield of a C152 a couple months back. I'm really starting to hate birds...

Title: Thanks
Post by: TexasListener on December 15, 2007, 04:01:17 PM

for the replies.

I guess what I was really wondering is how a large plane (eg, 777),  could hope to manoeuvre fast enough to avoid a flock of birds.

Title: Re: Thanks
Post by: tyketto on December 15, 2007, 08:47:40 PM

Quote from: TexasListener on December 15, 2007, 04:01:17 PM

for the replies.

I guess what I was really wondering is how a large plane (eg, 777),  could hope to manoeuvre fast enough to avoid a flock of birds.

Sometimes (heh.. more than often) they can't. Here at SMF we had a MD90 actually have a bird strike on their windshield on their climbout  from SMF heading to ATL. They turned around, declared emergency, and made a landing back at SMF. So if a large aircraft can't maneuver around them fast, a heavy will be less inclined to.

Besides.. I wouldn't be worried so much about birds.. Fish on the other hand.. That's a more serious problem. That's how Alaska got their Salmon-Thirty-Salmon nickname (and subsequent livery).

Airways Magazine has the story all about it. Link is here (http://airwaysmag.com/channels.html?article_id=78&channel_id=7).

BL.

Title: Re: Birds
Post by: Lezam on December 15, 2007, 09:27:04 PM

Here at JFK there are tons of birds, because its right near the water. Its amazing how we dont have many birdstrikes.

Title: Re: Birds
Post by: flightops1272 on December 16, 2007, 01:36:28 AM

One of my EMS helos returning to base crew only. Thankfully the buzzard hit the left side.

Title: Re: Thanks
Post by: Amante de Aviones on December 16, 2007, 02:14:00 AM

Does delta even fly MD90s to ATL on pax trips?  I dont think they do.

Title: Re: Thanks
Post by: tyketto on December 16, 2007, 02:35:38 AM

Quote from: Air Canada AJ on December 16, 2007, 02:14:00 AM

Does delta even fly MD90s to ATL on pax trips?  I dont think they do.

Typo on my part. MD80. And it was to SLC from here, not ATL.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/kcra/20071213/lo_kcra/14841618 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/kcra/20071213/lo_kcra/14841618)

BL.

Title: Re: Thanks
Post by: PHL Approach on December 16, 2007, 02:41:08 AM

Quote from: tyketto on December 16, 2007, 02:35:38 AM

Quote from: Air Canada AJ on December 16, 2007, 02:14:00 AM

Does delta even fly MD90s to ATL on pax trips?  I dont think they do.

Typo on my part. MD80. And it was to SLC from here, not ATL.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/kcra/20071213/lo_kcra/14841618 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/kcra/20071213/lo_kcra/14841618)

BL.

No, you were correct the first time. SLC is the only station that they run the MD90s out of. This was most certainly an MD90 flight.