Best ATC to learn radio communication?

[super jet 100]

I would like to learn radio communication used by pilots and ATC. Can you list some of the best ATC towers (most popular) to listen and study? As far as I know, many people don't suggest to listen to huge airports like ORD/JFK/BOS/LAX, because operators are very busy and don't use proper (standard) commands, talk super fast etc.

I heard some good reviews about KFAT, KVNY, KAPA towers. Can you list anything else that will suit my needs?

thanks!

[K5PAT]

Try KMSY, New Orleans. They are very professional and don't get overloaded like the big airports.

[super jet 100]

Anyone else? There are only few towers with slow and proper english by ICAO standards?

[scubarrie]

Have you tried EINN (High)? not a tower but they have constant communications, very clear and not rushed.

[Gadya]

To me, the best way to learn good radio communication phraseology/techniques isn't to pick a random setting and hope that you're learning good habits. Instead, I personally would rather largely rely on publications aimed at teaching them, and consider supplementing them with various amounts of real-world listening/emulating.

It's like driving a car. How many people regularly review the rules of the road and drive as safely/by-the-book as they did during their practical driving exam? Probably not many. Sure, we aren't constantly wrecking and accumulating traffic violations (well, some are lucky enough not to be )... but do you really want to point a 15-year-old to a random sampling of drivers and "teach" by way of emulating them, knowing that it's only going to go downhill from there? </soapbox>

I don't have any ATC listening suggestions, but I do have a reading suggestion: section 4-2 (as well as the entire publication) of the Aeronautical Information Manual (available in PDF form here).

When you read u just train reading skills,when trying to train comprehension and interaction u need to listen as much as possible to train your ears.

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[Gadya]

When you read u just train reading skills

That's definitely not true. At least, it isn't if you know how to read (comprehension is part of it; moving your eyes over letters on a page and realizing they form words isn't "reading").

There's absolutely a practical side to learning radio communications. I'm just saying it shouldn't be the sole (or even the majority) source of learning.

You are right but partly.There are reading comprehension and listening comprehension, in case of reading you train the first one.

To me, the best way to learn good radio communication phraseology/techniques isn't to pick a random setting and hope that you're learning good habits. Instead, I personally would rather largely rely on publications aimed at teaching them, and consider supplementing them with various amounts of real-world listening/emulating.

It's like driving a car. How many people regularly review the rules of the road and drive as safely/by-the-book as they did during their practical driving exam? Probably not many. Sure, we aren't constantly wrecking and accumulating traffic violations (well, some are lucky enough not to be )... but do you really want to point a 15-year-old to a random sampling of drivers and "teach" by way of emulating them, knowing that it's only going to go downhill from there? </soapbox>

I don't have any ATC listening suggestions, but I do have a reading suggestion: section 4-2 (as well as the entire publication) of the Aeronautical Information Manual (available in PDF form here).

When you read u just train reading skills,when trying to train comprehension and interaction u need to listen as much as possible to train your ears.

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[FLLflyboy]

Honestly, it depends on where you live. Europeans will have slightly different phraseology than their US counterparts. Here in the US, I would recommend trying to find a lower-activity airport and listen there. I say this because as an air traffic controller myself, the lower activity towers are typically training towers, for both pilots and controllers, where the controllers will use standard prescribed phraseology. The busier facilities don't have time for instance, to issue a proper traffic call for LUAW procedures. (If you had to do it every day, you will realize that you practically have to tell the pilots a story before you even say "Line Up and Wait") They will abbreviate or clip it or somehow shorten phraseology to buy themselves more time. I will also mirror what Brad G. said. Read up on proper radio communication, then pick a feed to listen to to help put it into practice and to grasp a lot of the concepts.