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Title: auto land?
Post by: jamall02864 on March 02, 2006, 10:57:57 PM
What dose it mean when a pilot requests a auto land  does that use the ils system is there a difference. I heard a a/c request it at bos and it was granted.  this was as the snow is starting to pile up now
Title: Re: auto land?
Post by: KSYR-pjr on March 03, 2006, 09:15:39 AM
Quote from: jamall02864
What dose it mean when a pilot requests a auto land  does that use the ils system is there a difference. I heard a a/c request it at bos and it was granted.  this was as the snow is starting to pile up now


I would suspect it is the Category III C ILS approach for runway 4 right (EDIT).

 Yes, an aircraft's autoland uses the ILS but the aircraft and aircrew have to be certified above other approach requirements  to fly this type of approach.  There are redundant autopilots (IIRC, there are three APs, two of which out-vote the third in the event of a discrepancy) that actually fly the approach, combined with multiple localizer/glideslope receivers and radar altimeters to continually feed height above ground to the APs.

See here for this approach:

http://myairplane.com/databases/approach/pdfs/00058I4RC3.PDF
Title: Re: auto land?
Post by: Jason on March 03, 2006, 09:16:50 AM
Quote from: KSYR-pjr
Quote from: jamall02864
What dose it mean when a pilot requests a auto land  does that use the ils system is there a difference. I heard a a/c request it at bos and it was granted.  this was as the snow is starting to pile up now


I would suspect it is the Category III C ILS approach for runway 4 left.

 Yes, an aircraft's autoland uses the ILS but the aircraft and aircrew have to be certified above other approach requirements  to fly this type of approach.  There are redundant autopilots (IIRC, there are three APs, two of which out-vote the third in the event of a discrepancy) that actually fly the approach, combined with multiple localizer/glideslope receivers and radar altimeters to continually feed height above ground to the APs.

See here for this approach:

http://myairplane.com/databases/approach/pdfs/00058I4RC3.PDF


Nice explanation, Peter.  A bit of a correction though: 4R is the CAT III ILS runway.  4L does not have any charted instrument approach.

Jason
Title: auto land?
Post by: KSYR-pjr on March 03, 2006, 09:25:08 AM
Yep, it hit me right after I posted it and attempted a correction, but you beat me to it!  :)
Title: auto land?
Post by: Jason on March 03, 2006, 10:00:33 AM
Quote from: KSYR-pjr
Yep, it hit me right after I posted it and attempted a correction, but you beat me to it!  :)


I'm just too quick, eh?!  It happens to me all the time, no worries.

Regards,
Jason
Title: auto land?
Post by: jamall02864 on March 03, 2006, 06:59:42 PM
thanks guys