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Here's the follow up from the June 16 post asking if the age should be raised.

A proposal has long been brewing to raise the mandatory retirement age for commercial airlines from 65 to 67. The US House of Representatives has finally cast their defining vote on the matter, and they voted to raise the retirement age.

This vote came as part of the bill to reauthorize the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). The bill, called the Securing Growth and Robust Leadership in American Aviation Act, passed with bipartisan support by a 351 to 69 vote.

While the Senate still has to vote and then reconcile their version of the bill, it’s looking like the mandatory retirement age will be raised for pilots unless something drastic happens. Let’s look at the pros and cons for such a change.

Arguments FOR Raising the Mandatory Retirement Age for Pilots

Proponents of raising the retirement age say that such a change could benefit experienced pilots. They argue that pilots could earn more money and work longer. As medical care continues to advance, pilots could still be productive later and later in life.

The most salient argument for proponents of the change is that airlines lack staff. Raising the retirement age adds more pilots to the pool of available workers.

More pilots means less delays and cancellations due to lack of available people to fly the plane. More routes could be kept open.

Regardless of reason – whether unpreparedness or neglect – airlines were not ready for the resurgence of travel after the pandemic. More pilots added to the ranks could alleviate this issue.

Arguments AGAINST Raising the Mandatory Retirement Age for Pilots

Raising the retirement age is opposed by major unions including the following:

The Air Line Pilots Association International

International Brotherhood of Teamsters

Transportation Trades Department


Transport Workers Union of America

Safety is a primary concern. There is a lack of studies on the effect of extending the retirement age. The US is a leader in airline safety, and commercial airline pilots are responsible for the lives of the hundreds of people onboard the aircraft.

Captain Ed Sicher, president of the Allied Pilots Association which represents American Airlines’ 15,000 pilots, said: “Health concerns such as cognitive decline, cardiovascular disease and diabetes become more prevalent as we age — something that has been studied extensively and demonstrated by American Airlines’ own data.”

In addition to safety, there are logistical concerns. Raising the retirement age to 67 would put the US in opposition to the international standard. Pilots aged 65-66 would be forced to only fly domestic routes, and many would have to be retrained to operate smaller aircraft for regional routes.

Opponents of raising the retirement age also say that it will take longer for existing pilots to advance in their profession towards the role of captain or have their choice of scheduling. While pilots in the 65-66 age bracket would be able to hold on for a couple more years, this could stagnate the mobility of other pilots.

Feed Setup Pictures / Re: YBAF - New Feeder
« Last post by josecmorales on August 09, 2023, 08:04:24 AM »
Great and simply setup!
There are so many other sites that broadcast UK ATC and other countries that have issues as Dave mentioned so this stupid EU/UK law of banning broadcasts are moot. We have other than here
Receiverbook(WEB SDRS/OpenWebSDRS)

This entire fiasco of banning ATC broadcasts is ridiculous and futile .

Bad enough CPDLC is killing our hobby .
Aviation Audio Clips / Plane makes emergency landing at Dane County Regional Airport
« Last post by KB4TEZ on August 08, 2023, 06:00:32 AM »

MADISON (WKOW) -- An Alaska Airlines plane made an emergency landing at the Dane County Regional Airport Saturday night.

An official with the Dane County Sheriff's Office said the call for the incident came in at 8:50 p.m.

27 News spoke to a dispatcher at the Dane County Communications Center, who said both fire and EMS crews responded after an indicator light for a possible wheel fire turned on.

A spokesperson for the Dane County Regional Airport said in an emailed statement: "An [Alaska] Airlines plane made a precautionary landing at the airport. The airplane landed safely, and the passengers deplaned."

The flight tracking website FlightAware shows Alaska Airlines Flight 367 was diverted to the Dane County Regional Airport after taking off from Milwaukee Mitchell International Airport. It was headed to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.

"Once on the ground in Madison, the aircraft was inspected by the fire department and no fire or heat was detected. A new aircraft will take guests to their destination tomorrow (Sunday) while a maintenance team inspects the original aircraft," Alaska Airlines said in an emailed statement to 27 News.
Feed Outage/Status Reports / Re: KONT Down
« Last post by N6RFB on August 07, 2023, 06:31:25 PM »
Feed has been restored.
Feed Outage/Status Reports / KONT Down
« Last post by N6RFB on August 07, 2023, 04:29:11 PM »
KONT feed is currently down due to external outage. No estimate on restoration.
Feed Outage/Status Reports / SVMI ATC SVZM Venezuela
« Last post by RadioLiNK on August 07, 2023, 07:56:11 AM »

I am adjusting the SVMI Maiquetia ATC Venezuela stream, any report is fine.

Aviation Audio Clips / Small plane lands on its nose at Bend Airport
« Last post by KB4TEZ on August 07, 2023, 05:56:49 AM »

BEND, Ore. (KTVZ) – An "aircraft emergency" was declared and there were some tense moments at Bend Airport early Thursday afternoon when a small plane with three people aboard landed on its nose after the front landing gear failed to deploy, officials said.

No one was reported injured in the incident, which occurred shortly before 12:30 p.m.

The airport had to be closed for about two hours, and a crane was brought in to move the plane off the runway.

“Our very first and foremost responsibility is to keep the airport runway operational and return to service as soon as possible," Airport Manager Tracy Williams said.
"And while there's an active aircraft incident involved, we will close the runway to landing traffic to mitigate against additional aircraft accidents or incidents,” she added.

The runway was not damaged in the incident, she said, allowing normal operations to resume.

The National Transportation Safety Board will look into what caused the problem with the landing gear.
Listener Forum / On HF ARINC Radio 13.354.0
« Last post by waterford on August 06, 2023, 11:57:25 PM »
SanFran radio C/E/P ocean steady nice signals into ne wisconsin all day. 13.354.0 usb
Listener Forum / Re: UK Control Centres (London & Scottish) broadcast on
« Last post by diskus on August 06, 2023, 07:57:20 AM »
They do not originate in the UK.

That is a spurious response to put it mildly. The controllers are based in the UK, transmitting to aircraft in UK airspace. To say that because you've maybe got a user based in Ireland picking up those transmissions and filing it under EIDW somehow means that they didn't originate from Britain is pure cynicism.

Sorry but I disagree completly with your interpretation here. The situation is no different than If i somehow could recieve these signals here in the US. 
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