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Aviation Audio Clips / Re: EDW298B Aborted Takeoff at LSZH
« Last post by RonR on November 01, 2023, 10:01:02 AM »
Here's short video of the aborted takeoff...

Aviation Accidents/Incidents / Re: KQA102 is entering Sudan airspace...
« Last post by DrSnuggles on November 01, 2023, 10:00:55 AM »
Yes, it seems, the live track was sketchy all together. The playback does show the accurate route being a standard track leading around to the West. Thanks for your time to clarify.
Aviation Accidents/Incidents / Re: KQA102 is entering Sudan airspace...
« Last post by RonR on November 01, 2023, 09:10:31 AM »
It's also very possible that the flight track showing the flight passing over South Sudan and Sudan was only an estimated flight track.  That's probably why the flight track is shown in white and not yellow.  The actual flight path more than likely was further to the south even though there might have been some weather along the route.  I hope this helps.

Aviation Accidents/Incidents / Re: KQA102 is entering Sudan airspace...
« Last post by RonR on November 01, 2023, 08:51:23 AM »
Some detailed information on the airspace restrictions over Sudan and South Sudan:
Listener Forum / Re: No more feeds in France ?
« Last post by Bensay on November 01, 2023, 07:12:23 AM »
There is no current news. Attached is a copy of the complaint.

It really has no basis in law as someone who transmits over open airwaves without encryption has no reasonable expectation of privacy. They are alleging that air traffic controllers can be personally identified by the fact that they merely issue instructions to pilots over the air (voluntarily, because they chose their job). It is a ludicrous assertion.

All the while, France passed this legislation today: France: New security law risks dystopian surveillance state

We have been in contact with at least two other French aviation groups that are quite surprised and angered at this development.

Dear dave,

Any update about the situation ?

According to the letter that i've read,

I suggest you to re-open the feed, and the is why, according to my opinion.

The DGAG told you that doing some processing operations, and they refer to the of Regulation (EU) 2016/679 of the Parliament,
European Parliament and of the Council of 27 April 2016, relating to the protection of natural persons with regard to processing of personal data and the free movement of these data (regulation
general data protection).

Especially the article n°6, by saying that :

"However, the processing that you carry out on the data does not appear lawful within the meaning of article 6 of the
aforementioned regulation."

This as false, according to the same code :

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1. Processing is only lawful if and to the extent that at least one of the following conditions is met:
a) the data subject has consented to the processing of his or her personal data for one or more purposes
(b) the processing is necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is party or for the performance of
pre-contractual measures taken at the request of the latter;
c) the processing is necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller is subject;
(d) processing is necessary to safeguard the vital interests of the data subject or another person
e) the processing is necessary for the performance of a task of public interest or relating to the exercise of public authority
which is vested in the data controller;
f) the processing is necessary for the purposes of the legitimate interests pursued by the controller or by a third party,
unless the interests or fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject prevail which require protection.
protection of personal data, in particular when the person concerned is a child.
Point (f) of the first paragraph does not apply to processing carried out by public authorities in the execution of their

The good point here is section e),
Indeed you're acting for the public interest, for freedom of information.

DGAC is a public agency which fall onto this regulation purpose :

Directive 2003/98/EC of the European Parliament and the Council of 17 November 2003 on the re-use of public sector information sets out the rules and practices for accessing public sector information resources for further exploitation. This directive has been reviewed in 2013 by Directive 2013/37/EU of the European Parliament and the Council of 26 June 2013 amending Directive 2003/98/EC on the re-use of public sector information.

So it will be nice to heard back from french feed, and wait until an "maybe" next DGAC letter, But it will be difficult for them to find other legal reasons.

Best wings,


Aviation Accidents/Incidents / Re: KQA102 is entering Sudan airspace...
« Last post by KB4TEZ on November 01, 2023, 06:33:15 AM »
Weather is the exception to that.
SW Sudan was having storms at that time.

Aviation Accidents/Incidents / KQA102 is entering Sudan airspace...
« Last post by DrSnuggles on October 31, 2023, 08:39:03 PM »
Hi All, a.m. flight of today 31st Oct 2023 is going straight North to reach LHR.  I thought, Sudan Airspace is closed for civilian air traffic ?
Feed Setup Pictures / Re: KPDX Feed Photos
« Last post by tpatrick on October 31, 2023, 05:50:58 PM »
Thanks for sharing Brad! I'm just getting in to air traffic and it's pretty cool seeing the setup that's servicing my home airport.
Aviation Audio Clips / Skywest Bird Strike Denver
« Last post by KB4TEZ on October 31, 2023, 03:23:06 PM »

Owner/operator:   SkyWest Airlines, opf United Express
Registration:   N154SY
MSN:   17000556
Year of manufacture:   2016

Aircraft damage:   Minor
Location:   Denver International Airport, CO (DEN/KDEN) -    United States of America
Phase:   Take off
Nature:   Passenger - Scheduled
Departure airport:   Denver International Airport, CO (DEN/KDEN)
Destination airport:   Fayetteville-Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport, AR (XNA/KXNA)
Confidence Rating:    Information verified through data from accident investigation authorities
United flight UA4707, an Embraer ERJ-175LR, struck several birds on takeoff from runway 8 at Denver International Airport, CO (DEN). The flight returned to land at DEN. Damage was observed on the radome and fairings.
Aviation Audio Clips / EDW298B Aborted Takeoff at LSZH
« Last post by RonR on October 31, 2023, 08:54:20 AM »
On October 27, an Edelweiss A320 (EDW298B) departing for Faro, Portugal aborted its takeoff run at Zurich Airport.  According to the airline, the aircraft was behaving abnormally during takeoff causing the pilots the reject the takeoff at high speed.  Passengers reported the aircraft was shaking considerably during takeoff.  The tower sent the fire brigade out to the aircraft as a precaution because of possible overheated brakes due to the high-speed takeoff rejection.
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