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Found this interesting.

The union representing American Airlines pilots has raised concerns about new cockpit procedures the airline implemented Tuesday, saying pilots had not been given adequate time or training to learn them.

While pilots would normally receive formal in-person or online training on procedural updates of this kind, Allied Pilots Association spokesperson Captain Dennis Tajer told USA TODAY in an interview that they only received a training bulletin (or handout), along with updates to the operating manual – which he estimated comprised 100 pages of reading between them – and a short video with a general overview of the changes that he says was not specific to the aircraft American pilots fly.

The updates are designed to streamline pilot operations across the airline's fleet, according to Tajer.

"American Airlines Flight Operations management is attempting to circumvent robust safety-related pilot training by unilaterally imposing operational changes via bulletin," leaders from the APA, which represents 15,000 American Airlines pilots, said in a post on its website Monday. "While APA does not oppose fleet harmonization, we are steadfast in our commitment that pilots must be properly trained BEFORE operating with passengers."The post went on: "This attempt to train by bulletin, while ignoring serious safety concerns and well-established best practices, runs the risk of dramatically eroding margins of safety."

"Our commitment to safety is unwavering, which is why we regularly update our Aircraft Operating Manuals to ensure they represent the latest and safest information for our pilots," an American Airlines spokesperson said in an emailed statement. "These changes represent industry best practice and ensure improved crew coordination and consistency across fleet types so that our pilots can easily transition across different aircraft if they choose."The spokesperson said the changes have been in the works since 2021 and have been done in collaboration with APA's training committee, adding that the "approach to familiarizing" pilots had been approved by the Federal Aviation Administration.

Tajer said there had not been any collaboration with APA on the particular changes implemented Tuesday.While Tajer said self-study is a normal part of how pilots train, "A reading assignment is not proper flight training." He added that pilots received the materials in early December, giving them a month to review them, which is "1/12" of the time they would normally have to get familiar and train on similar updates.

He said the union asked for a delay in implementing the changes, which management refused. "We want this to work," he said. "We understand what they're trying to do, but like anything on the flight deck, you've got to get trained." The union also contacted the FAA asking them to intervene, Tajer said, but the agency declined.

"The FAA requires airlines to have robust safety management systems that enable employees to report safety concerns," the FAA told USA TODAY in an emailed statement. "The agency reviews those employee reports daily to ensure the safety of an airline’s operations."

The agency also said it reviews and approves all training materials. But it did not comment on the APA's request to intervene in the matter.

What are the new American Airlines protocols?
The new protocols impact a range of cockpit procedures, including "how pilots communicate, coordinate, and execute flight safety duties at some of the most high-threat times of flight," according to the APA. Those are scenarios such as low-visibility approaches, rejected takeoffs – during which an airplane takeoff is terminated – and others.

Tajer said pilots received a letter from management on Jan. 1 – which he shared with USA TODAY - advising pilots that "during this learning period, the changes are small enough that mixing the new with our current callouts and procedures would not bring undue risk," the letter read.
"On the flight deck, mixing procedures – ones that are no longer valid with ones that are – is reckless," he said, adding that the guidance made his "jaw drop."
Listener Forum / LiveATC Universal Mac App
« Last post by brauf200 on January 30, 2023, 07:40:44 AM »
Good Morning,

I wanted to request if the LiveATC app on iPad could be made universal so that one can download it on Mac app store as well.


On January 27, a Cape Air Cessna 402C on Flight 9KI had its landing gear fail while completing Flight 1180 from Manistee, Michigan, to O’Hare International Airport. There were no injuries, but the landing gear collapse did temporarily close Runway 27R, which happens to be one of the shortest of O’Hare International Airport’s eight runways.
Flight 9K1, operated by a Cessna 402C twin-piston engine aircraft, left Manistee, Michigan for O’Hare International Airport at 8:02 AM local on January 27 and was able to cross Lake Michigan without incident flying at less than 10,000 feet. It arrives at O’Hare International Airport at 8:15 AM where the nose landing gear collapsed during landing.

As per the above graphic, Flight 9K1 connects a small western Michigan airport in Manistee with the airport with the world’s most runways and many airlines in O'Hare International Airport.

KEY BISCAYNE, Fla. – A small plane made an emergency landing on the Rickenbacker Causeway in Key Biscayne Saturday evening, authorities said.

According to the Federal Aviation Administration, a single-engine Beechcraft A23A made the emergency landing around 5:20 p.m.

Authorities said four people were on board when the plane landed.

“It just sounded like a big bang,” said witness Lileth Gonzalez. “I got up to get out of the water and I saw that the plane was landing on the street.”

According to the FAA, the registered owner of the plan is Daniel Mosquera, of Miami.

The Rickenbacker Causeway entrance was blocked off due to the crash investigation, City of Miami Police Department said in a tweet.

Local 10 News cameras were at the scene where a heavy police presence was in the area.

Witnesses said dozens of people on the beach started running to the plane after watching it land.

“It didn’t really crash, it bounced onto the highway and it kind of just crashed into the car in front of it,” said Gonzalez.

Police have not said if anyone was injured after the plane landed.

The FAA said it will conduct a full investigation to determine what caused the plane to come down prematurely.

working on the audio on this one, have you ever tracked a UPS flight out of there, they're all UPS flights :)
So far have them going to Indy Center, this one will take a while to piece together.

A UPS United Parcel Service McDonnell Douglas MD-11 freighter, registration N275UP performing flight 5X-1276 from Louisville,KY to Raleigh/Durham,NC (USA) with 2 crew, was climbing out of Louisville's runway 17L just after being handed off to center when the crew reported they had a cargo fire indication and needed to return to Louisville for an ILS approach to runway 17L. Back on approach control to Louisville the crew, now audibly on oxygen masks, reported they now also had smoke in the cockpit and requested and were cleared for a visual approach to runway 17R, the crew advised they would stop on the runway. The aircraft landed without further incident, vacated the runway and stopped just clear of the runway, where the crew evacuated via slides.


Listener Forum / Re: Who listens to KONT?
« Last post by tyketto on January 27, 2023, 06:36:17 PM »
Yeah, they've been operating reverse ops for the last couple of days.  Brings all those freighters nice and close to house.

Yeah.. for pretty much the entire week, the entire SoCal Basin has been in east ops. LAX was east, LGB was east, BUR was north, VNY was north, ONT was east, SNA was north.. only SAN stayed landing to the west, so it lead to a lot of interesting listening.

Feed Outage/Status Reports / KTUS2 Ground frequency temporary change added
« Last post by gavron on January 27, 2023, 05:10:04 PM »
As per
the KTUS2 feed has been updated to add 120.025 as the alternate ground frequency
good through 202303181200z.

It will be removed after that time.


Tucson, Arizona, US
Pilot/Controller Forum / LinkedIn story about the RI at JFK
« Last post by KB4TEZ on January 27, 2023, 05:50:41 AM »
Would love to hear from any pilots on this.

As far as is emerging from news about RI at JFK it seems that American Airlines Flight 106 crew, which was involved in the runway incursion, was flying its first flight with new cockpit's procedures.
A new procedures introduced January the 2nd, 35-page bulletin that changes procedures. If confirmed, an implementation that had modified procedures through a 35-page bulletin #training in a 65- page manual rather than through in person training. New cockpit's procedures including changes to cockpit communications during critical events.
Furthermore it is reported that Allied Pilots Association had appealed the Federal Aviation Administration’s approval before the incident.
Without going into the merits of what is being reported by news sites these days, the topic deserves attention. The implementation of new procedures in complex activities must always be evaluated with great caution. In-person training is always the best method even if it involves a higher cost of resources. A complete and accurate informative dissemination allows a correct and safe application by the operators. Interpretative doubts, on the other hand, can have repercussions in the practical application of the new procedures. Causing, among other things, an increase in the workload due to uncertainty.
Listener Forum / Re: Who listens to KONT?
« Last post by N6RFB on January 26, 2023, 07:13:34 PM »
Yeah, they've been operating reverse ops for the last couple of days.  Brings all those freighters nice and close to house.
Listener Forum / Re: Who listens to KONT?
« Last post by tyketto on January 26, 2023, 06:49:48 PM »
So I was sitting here watching Kevin at LAX on Airline Videos and decided to check my KONT feed.  13 listeners, #9 on the top 50.  HOLY COW!  Got me wondering, Who listens to my feed and where are you located?  Glad to see folks are enjoying it.  Rich, N6RFB, Corona, CA.

Don't be surprised if a fair amount of people are listening to your feed. A Good possible explanation for it is that Apple just released new Macs, and they have been ordered a lot. So with those being tracked via FlightAware's iPhone tracker (same site will work for Macs or anything shipping from China), and all of them flying UPS or FDX, they'll make the run up to PANC, then to KSDF, then over to KONT for the west coast, unless they go directly to KONT from PANC. As you know with KONT being UPS' west coast hub, tons of traffic is going to be listened in on, especially for the cargo.

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