Author Topic: Very rare 'go around' in Philadelphia (Traffic landing opposite direction)  (Read 1279 times)

Offline VASAviation

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I have just received this in my email. I am currently out for the whole weekend without my computer and my edition software to trim the possible good audio that we might find in the PHL feeds. If anyone here has the time and is up to do it...


When I landed at PHL from LHR at 1910 on BA0067 on 7 Mar, the plane aborted landing and did a go around after ATC told him another plane was landing in opposite direction. Pilot told passengers it was one for the diary as a rare situation, he seemed surprised. Do you have the ATC feed you could upload to YouTube? I enjoy your videos.


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Offline wiedehopf

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PHL landing 27R and 35, converging runway operations.

According to FR24 history it actually seems more like they lost separation to the preceding A300 going very slow (Fedex, probably empty).

BAW67V was landing 27R. (go-around on March 8th somewhen around 0025Z)

Could have been spacing with the Falcon landing 35 but the converging traffic seems to be spaced quite close at PHL.
So my bet is on separation with the preceding heavy A300.

I'll dig out the audio but i suspect it will be rather boring :)
(For a BA longhaul pilot converging runway operation might be one for the diary, but overall nothing spectacular)

Offline wiedehopf

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Audio is unremarkable:

Controller gave as reason: "The Fedex isn't gonna have room to clear with you 2.3 nm behind you there."
(Responding to the Falcon Jet landing 35, who was apologising for going so fast as they were instructed to do so by approach)
So that might have been part of the confusion.

Overall it was probably one for the diaries as the spacing on the converging runway operation in PHL seems to be quite close.

Compared to most major airports in the world, any converging runway operation must seem like the wild west.
But PHL seems to be especially brutal.
Having two converging streams of planes all separated by 3 nm, so maybe 1 nm or less separation between the aircraft landing the crossing runways is quite interesting.
(Pretty sure the Falcon was about 0.5 nm from the threshold when the Fedex passed the threshold in front of him.)