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Offline Dr Bob

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Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« on: September 19, 2007, 04:12:35 PM »
I was listening and hear ATC guiding someone into a field on the eastern shore?  (seems like a safe landing)
I have no idea how to clip it out for hearing here.....thought one of you might be able to find it.
Nice job by ATC.

« Last Edit: September 19, 2007, 04:39:27 PM by Dr Bob »



Offline moto400ex

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2007, 05:20:11 PM »
Sounds like N8557U which is registered as a 1964 Cessna 172F.  I actually found some info in this plane here.
http://www.w4pw.us/N8557U.htm 
If my eyes serve me correct im seeing a 6 cylinder engine in the plane?  Anyone know anything about that?

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2007, 05:22:51 PM »
Heres a pic of the engine

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2007, 05:35:42 PM »
yeah continental 0-300.   Cessna uses Lycoming now..IO-360 for the Rs and S models...dont know about the other new models.


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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2007, 06:00:35 PM »
Was that standard back then?

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2007, 06:06:56 PM »
yeah...i think 145hp.  bigger and less efficient than the newer lycoming.

Offline sysconx

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 09:35:42 AM »
The sound of the engine is deeper and feel of the engine much smoother compared to 4-cyl C172s.

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2008, 10:30:53 PM »
I was the pilot and sole passenger. I landed safe and sound in a soybean field in the Eastern shore of Maryland. No physical damage to me and none to the airplane, from the landing at least. I was very lucky.

I would love to get a copy of the ATC tapes if anyone has them.

Offline KSYR-pjr

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2008, 10:24:19 AM »
I was the pilot and sole passenger. I landed safe and sound in a soybean field in the Eastern shore of Maryland. No physical damage to me and none to the airplane, from the landing at least. I was very lucky.

Congratulations to you on a very successful off-airport landing.  What was the cause of the engine failure?

I would love to get a copy of the ATC tapes if anyone has them.

Unfortunately unless someone actually edits the archive clip to create a clip that is posted in this forum, it is eventually lost as the LiveATC.net ATC archives only retain about a 45 day rolling history here.   The only hope would be to see if anyone who listened to the entire archive clip still has it stored locally on their computers.

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2008, 07:30:50 PM »
they think it was the coils in the magnetos. when they got hot (after 2 hrs of warm weather flying) they stopped conducting a charge. When they cooled, the plane handled great. They replaced the mags and the spark plugs. They told me that should fix the problem. I am still scared flying it and will be until I can circle my local airport for 4 hrs next summer on a hot day, just in case it quits again. It will be a boring but necessary flight, but being a controller, at least I'll be able to talk with my co-workers on the freq.

I called the Potomic Tracon and asked for a copy of the tapes, but they never got back to me, so if you know someone who has a copy, I would love to hear it. I have worked many emergencies but this was my first as a pilot. I prefer being on the controller side of an emergency..... less terrifying.

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2008, 11:45:22 PM »
Where are you a controller eekster?  Just wondering...

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2008, 04:38:22 PM »
I am a controller at Wilkes-Barre Tower/Tracon. Give us a call on 124.5 if you fly though this area. We'll be happy to work you. My operating initials are EK, hence my handle here....  eekster.

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2008, 09:59:59 PM »
i heard the clip on here...because bwi has 5 or 6 freqs depending if the adiz is open or not, most of the transmissions were not recorded.  there was another engine failure/emergency landing that day in the bwi area, i don't recall the details though.  the controller who you were talking to is a good friend of mine. an oldtimer;  joined the faa back in '81 i believe. 


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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2008, 12:03:29 PM »
well, tell your controller friend that I say Thanks. He did a great job. FSDO told me that they flew over the grass strip for about 20 minutes before they found the grass runway. They had a working plane, 2 pilots and a gps so they did not fault me for not finding it since I was alone, no gps and no engine. I landed about a mile from it though. I know what he went through since I worked many emergencies myself, but this was my 1st as a pilot. If he has a copy of the tapes I would love to get a copy of them for my scrapbook.
happy flying. EK at AVP

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Re: Emergency Landing BWI feed 2010Zhrs 9/19
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2008, 09:11:21 AM »
they think it was the coils in the magnetos. when they got hot (after 2 hrs of warm weather flying) they stopped conducting a charge. When they cooled, the plane handled great.

Both mags failed in that manner at the same time causing engine failure or did just one fail and cause a very rough engine?  If the former, that is very unfortunate timing.

I completely understand your hesitancy to return to the air but you have a solid plan there by staying in the pattern or even climbing in ovals over your airport for an hour or two.  Hopefully the excitement and challenge that drove you to obtaining your pilot's certificate will overpower the concern of another engine failure. 

As you may know engine failures not due to fuel exhaustion are one of the lowest percentage type of accidents.  Uncompromising and routine maintenance are the key to keeping this statistic down, though.