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Air Traffic Monitoring => Aviation Audio Clips => Topic started by: ect76 on September 08, 2011, 03:59:53 PM
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Came across this linked on another forum approaching the 10th anniversary of 9/11.
It's a series of recordings from a mixture of sources. Many are ATC, some are phone conversations. All are listed in chronological order and can be played start to finish, with full transcripts.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/09/08/nyregion/911-tapes.html?smid=fb-nytimes&WT.mc_id=NY-SM-E-FB-SM-LIN-TNEL-090811-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=click
Never forget those who perished at the hands of terrorists.
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Powerfull stuff. I still remember exactly where I was that day. :cry:
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moving.... :cry: :cry:
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Very sad but very interesting. Great post...
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"MAY.....DAY" from UAL93 was disturbing. Very disturbing. I can't imagine the struggle that was happening in the cockpit.
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Here is the full material. Very extensive!
http://www.rutgerslawreview.com/2011/a-new-type-of-war/
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Not surprising the ATC guys seemed to have it together. They are trained to handle stressful situations and employ concise telecommunications.
I was shocked how bad the NORAD NEADS came across, particularly the ID Techs. Referring to a real world hijacking as "cool" and taking 15 words to get across information that should take 3 words. I'm not criticizing the individuals because it was a stressful situation for anyone to handle, but I am critical of their training at the time. I would have thought they would be better prepared. Hopefully they are now.
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I was shocked how bad the NORAD NEADS came across, particularly the ID Techs. Referring to a real world hijacking as "cool" and taking 15 words to get across information that should take 3 words. I'm not criticizing the individuals because it was a stressful situation for anyone to handle, but I am critical of their training at the time. I would have thought they would be better prepared. Hopefully they are now.
I thought the same thing. I will give them this, though: It appears that there was a huge emphasis on drills and not enough emphasis on distinguishing between a drill and a real-world scenario. Especially when one of the ID Techs said, "I've never seen so many real world problems like this in a drill before," and when three ID Techs said "Is this a drill?" it is very clear that they didn't know how to distinguish between a drill and the real world. When the lady said "cool" to the idea of a hijacking, she clearly didn't know the gravity of the situation.