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Title: Turkish Airlines 1951 - Feb. 25, 2009
Post by: kea001 on February 25, 2009, 12:18:43 PM

Files:

1. EHAM1a - source: EHAM feed 9:00z - 9:30z
    Turkish Airlines 1951 on approach
    14mins59secs he checks in with approach and is cleared "SPY.....ILS 18R".
    19min40: left 210 degrees . 22min34 "left 210 cleared approach"
    24min18 : "call tower 118.275 (?)"


2. EHAM1b - source: EHAM feed 9:00z - 9:30z
    9:27.03z minutes to 9:30+
    Go around of "Jet 262" first indication of an emergency.
    I have no idea who Jet 262 is. Also sounds like YAK 262


3  EHAM2 - source: EHAM2 feed 9:00z - 9:30z
    Delivery feed (?) 9:27.03z minutes to 9:30+
   

Title: Re: Turkish Airlines 1951 - Feb. 25, 2009
Post by: ruud on February 25, 2009, 01:26:50 PM

Do you also hear at 01.46 min. on EHAM1b the words "misapproach".

Title: Re: Turkish Airlines 1951 - Feb. 25, 2009
Post by: kea001 on February 25, 2009, 03:04:16 PM

Yes. "Missed approach" I think. Could be the YAK guy although I'm not sure.

Also for consideration:

"The airplane had been handed off to tower at 09:24Z. An aircraft following TK-1951, most likely a Northwest Airbus A330-200 N803NW flight NW46 arriving from Minneapolis,MN (USA), reported to the tower at 09:27Z, that the Turkish was down just ahead of him, and was commanded a go-around, immediately thereafter all Schiphol frequencies started to report about a major emergency and halted all traffic on the ground."

http://avherald.com/h?article=41595ec3&opt=1 (http://avherald.com/h?article=41595ec3&opt=1)

I don't know where Aviation Herald go there info from and I don't recall hearing it.

Aviation Herald also adds this:

"TC-JGE can not be heard on the tower frequency on liveatc.net, possibly because of their feed listens to a multitude of frequencies including clearance, ground and tower with a lot of communication on clearance in the critical time. The tower frequency only cuts in for part into the transmission of the pilot report of an airplane down, the call sign not audible."

I don't have the time to go over anymore of the audio.

Title: Re: Turkish Airlines 1951 - Feb. 25, 2009
Post by: safe-T on February 25, 2009, 03:09:02 PM

The go around of Flt 262 was probably JAT 262.

Title: Re: Turkish Airlines 1951 - Feb. 25, 2009
Post by: kea001 on February 25, 2009, 05:41:27 PM

JAT 262 - Belgrade to Amsterdam

ARRIVAL:
Airport:        (AMS) Amsterdam-Schiphol Airport
                  Amsterdam, NL
Scheduled:    10:30 AM - Wed Feb 25, 2009
Actual:        1:20 PM    - Wed Feb 25, 2009
                 Arrived at gate 170 min later than scheduled
Local Time:    11:38 PM - Wed Feb 25, 2009



Cool. Thanks. :-D

http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlightExtendedDetails.do?id=153013887&airlineCode=JU&flightNumber=262 (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlightExtendedDetails.do?id=153013887&airlineCode=JU&flightNumber=262)

Title: Re: Turkish Airlines 1951 - Feb. 25, 2009
Post by: ruud on February 25, 2009, 05:53:49 PM

That's right, it is JAT Airways

Title: Re: Turkish Airlines 1951 - Feb. 25, 2009
Post by: matejazika on February 26, 2009, 05:10:34 AM

Hallo , JET 262 , In fact that is Serbian airline company JAT 262 . Interesting to have that they were in training too . Also, it was three crew members in the Cocpit .