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Offline Gordon

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Toronto Beech 1900?
« on: September 09, 2007, 08:45:16 PM »
At around 0038Z Toronto tower cleared an aircraft to land after a Beech 1900. I missed a little part of it but the pilot said, "I didn't know a 1900 could go 270kts" The tower responded, "Oh dont worry about that, we got him motivated"

Is the streams recorded where I might be able to find out what exactly was said?  :lol:



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Re: Toronto Beech 1900?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2007, 08:56:14 PM »
Haha, I was flying into HPN last week and N90 asked a Cirrus to "maintain 190 knots or greater".  The Cirrus pilot responded "uhh....we're a cirrus.  Would you settle for 150 downhill?"

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Re: Toronto Beech 1900?
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2007, 09:39:53 PM »
Haha, I was flying into HPN last week and N90 asked a Cirrus to "maintain 190 knots or greater".  The Cirrus pilot responded "uhh....we're a cirrus.  Would you settle for 150 downhill?"

Always great fun on the NOBBI sector.

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Re: Toronto Beech 1900?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2007, 10:24:24 AM »
At around 0038Z Toronto tower cleared an aircraft to land after a Beech 1900. I missed a little part of it but the pilot said, "I didn't know a 1900 could go 270kts" The tower responded, "Oh dont worry about that, we got him motivated"

Is the streams recorded where I might be able to find out what exactly was said? 

Welcome to the forum!

You can revisit archive at:  http://www.liveatc.net/archive.php

The link you may be looking for is at

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/cyyz/CYYZ-Toronto-Sep-10-2007-0030Z.mp3

I listened to it and seems that it is from the Deptarture Controller rather than the Toronto Tower.  And looks like they are not landing.. (not many plane lands at 270 knots!  :wink:)

Also, looks like it is GGN2802 who they are referring to.. at the very start of the clip

kkjlai
« Last Edit: September 10, 2007, 10:40:19 AM by kkjlai »

Offline Greg01

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Re: Toronto Beech 1900?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2007, 02:53:24 PM »
I flew into ISP last Monday and the controller cleared me for the visual to 24 and asked me to maintain my best forward speed and advised that there was a SWA 73 behind me.

I was in a Cherokee doing about 120 KIAS and only getting 100 over the ground! I so badly wanted to say, "I'm pedalling as fast as I can..." but I don't think he would've appreciated it, he seemed a little busy.


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Re: Toronto Beech 1900?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2007, 09:55:53 PM »
From a fatal 2000 NTSB report:  http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X20469&key=1  

Quote from: NTSB report CHI00MA066A 
At 1459:53, the LC asked the pilot, "are you straight in still?" The pilot responded, "ah yes sir." The LC instructed the pilot to "keep your speed up as much as feasible cleared to land." The pilot acknowledged and stated, "peddling as fast as I can."

I guess it sounds better when its not transcribed.

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Re: Toronto Beech 1900?
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 03:51:24 PM »
Oh, how many times have i heard "keep the speed up!"

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Re: Toronto Beech 1900?
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 11:58:48 PM »
better than hearing "approach clearance canceled, turn left/right heading ___ for resequence"  :-o

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Re: Toronto Beech 1900?
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2007, 03:38:12 PM »
Good point!


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Re: Toronto Beech 1900?
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2007, 04:08:49 PM »
better than hearing "approach clearance canceled, turn left/right heading ___ for resequence"  :-o

Got that once during my instrument training when winds were blowing almost 40 kts straight into our C172's nose for the ILS.   Groundspeed down the ILS was around 55kts.  Groundspeed after being pulled off the approach and sent to the back of the line was 160 kts, which, of course, meant another long, painful crawl back to the airport.

This was at night and the lake effect snow had reduced visibility to around 1/2 mile or less at times.  A most memorable instruction flight, it was.

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Re: Toronto Beech 1900?
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2007, 04:55:52 PM »
Went flying on a day where the winds were fairly gusty at the surface, but absolutely howling at 2000 feet. Got the Cherokee into slow flight and we were flying backwards at about 20 kts. Fun times!