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Title: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: flpilot07 on August 04, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
This morning (8/4), one of the pilots on the departure line for 4L, asked the controller about a single engine airplane that came into JFK last night and apparently crashed and bashed the prop up good. Plane is still in the run up block this am. Probably, an interesting clip, anyone hear it?
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: moto400ex on August 04, 2008, 12:49:50 PM
What time, I know someone who was flying in there in a single engine cessna.
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: flpilot07 on August 04, 2008, 06:21:24 PM
The Controlled said around 8pm, didn't have time to search through all of the clips.
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: 121mhz on August 05, 2008, 10:44:57 PM
IDENTIFICATION
  Regis#: CGMZR        Make/Model: C172      Description: 172, P172, R172, Skyhawk, Hawk XP, Cutla
  Date: 08/03/2008     Time: 0000

  Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
  Damage: Unknown

LOCATION
  City: NEW YORK   State: NY   Country: US

DESCRIPTION
  CANADIAN REGISTERED AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, VEERED OFF THE RUNWAY INTO THE
  GRASS, KENNEDY AIRPORT, NEW YORK, NY

INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
                 # Crew:   2     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:   
                 # Pass:   0     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:   
                 # Grnd:         Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:   

WEATHER: NOT REPORTED

OTHER DATA
  Activity: Unknown      Phase: Landing      Operation: OTHER


  FAA FSDO: GARDEN CITY, NY  (EA15)               Entry date: 08/04/2008
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: 121mhz on August 05, 2008, 11:39:48 PM
Sounds like he had a tire blow.  That happens, I had it once at CDW and it's surprising but nothing serious.

I compiled the attached from JFK Tower 2330-0000, JFK tower 0000-0030 and JFK Clearence/Delivery 0000-0030.

Unfortunately according to Flightaware this guy either doesn't know what equipment code to follow, or he flew into JFK without a Mode C.  I guess it's possible, but not without a waiver.
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: flpilot07 on August 05, 2008, 11:50:07 PM
As usual, awesome job by ATC (esp. tower, he doesn't screw around). Jetblue don't blast your reaction right over the air, when a pilot is trying to recover from an emergency. Sorry, going through dispatcher training.
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: KSYR-pjr on August 06, 2008, 08:30:13 AM
Excellent clip - thanks for posting.

"Anything you need, sir, it gets done."

IMO very impressive, respectful response from controllers who normally don't handle little bugsmashers.
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: cessna157 on August 06, 2008, 01:44:31 PM
Haha, sounds like one of my landings in the -700:  "WHHOOOOOAAAAAA!"

Controller got a little excited there for a second, which is a natural reaction.  Did a pretty good talking down the pilot post-accident.
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: punky on August 28, 2008, 10:38:14 AM
I know that plane very well (GCMZR) - I've got a fair amount of hours on it, some with long cross countries.

It does have Mode C in it.
I still have to question the logic on taking a C172 (non IFR certified) plane into JFK. It does have a full instrument/radio stack, and does have the alternate static source - but it's not IFR certified.


Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: keith on August 28, 2008, 02:55:59 PM
What a wonderful piece of controlling.  Every transmissions seems to have the pilot's best interests in mind.

I have no idea if the emergency equipment was required, but even it wasn't, I'm sure it made for a useful drill.
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: englishpilot on August 28, 2008, 06:41:31 PM
What a great response from the controller - "whatever you want it will get done"
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: athaker on August 29, 2008, 03:35:16 PM
Despite him being a C172 at a huge airport, very professional to treat him with all the same courtesy as a heavy jet airliner.

Great clip to hear. 
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: cessna157 on August 29, 2008, 09:25:06 PM
Despite him being a C172 at a huge airport, very professional to treat him with all the same courtesy as a heavy jet airliner.

Ha, now if they actually treated the airliners with this courtesy that you speak of, it'd be a perfect world.

Sorry, just had to say it.  Ya left the door open on that one.
Title: Re: Small plane mishap at JFK, night of 8/3
Post by: athaker on August 30, 2008, 11:18:47 AM
hahah tou che