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Title: Sloppy readbacks
Post by: philip on February 29, 2012, 02:35:33 AM
I've been listening to this archive, near the beginning and the one before, everyone just seems to not really read anything back.
And then up to 6 mins, one guy saying no need to kick my butt, he was only giving him his IFR Details.  If you're not ready to copy them twice, then you should re-learn something or don't get moody.
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ksac/KSAC-Gnd-Twr-Feb-28-2012-2100Z.mp3
Title: Re: Sloppy readbacks
Post by: martyj19 on February 29, 2012, 07:47:42 AM
That is pretty disgraceful.  This person's worst nightmare will be holding in solid IFR and hearing "we have an amended clearance, it's a full route clearance, advise ready to copy".
Title: Re: Sloppy readbacks
Post by: FlightRisk on February 29, 2012, 09:51:01 AM
This seems like a pretty standard clearance but maybe some IFR pilots can chime in.
Title: Re: Sloppy readbacks
Post by: bn2av8r on February 29, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
I'm thinking the problem here is he probably filed direct destination (which you never get in California) and was expecting that so he did not have a pen/pencil and was trying to do it from memory.  That's the problem with weekend warriors with wizzbang GPS units; they always seem to file direct and expect to get it.
Title: Re: Sloppy readbacks
Post by: tucraceman on February 29, 2012, 09:45:24 PM
Cleared San Carlos
L-150
RV
Sac 157
MOVDD
ECA 215
CEDES
SJC
Direct
2000
6000 5mins
Dep: 125.25
4217


Easy as pie.  This guy is an accident.
~D
Title: Re: Sloppy readbacks
Post by: dave on February 29, 2012, 10:19:30 PM
This pilot had some other things on his mind or just could not focus for some reason.  Either way, he should not be flying IFR until he has had some remedial training with a good CFII.  Everyone can have a bad day, but launching into busy airspace with that kind of lack of attention to detail is asking for trouble (whether flying VFR *or* IFR).



Title: Re: Sloppy readbacks
Post by: dylanh on February 29, 2012, 11:16:42 PM
Cleared San Carlos
L-150
RV
Sac 157
MOVDD
ECA 215
CEDES
SJC
Direct
2000
6000 5mins
Dep: 125.25
4217


Easy as pie.  This guy is an accident.
~D
If it's as easy as pie, then why, in the comfort of your computer chair, did you miss something as easy as the sqwawk of 4215 after hearing it 7 times?
Title: Re: Sloppy readbacks
Post by: jrsx on March 01, 2012, 09:51:22 PM
Cleared San Carlos
L-150
RV
Sac 157
MOVDD
ECA 215
CEDES
SJC
Direct
2000
6000 5mins
Dep: 125.25
4217


Easy as pie.  This guy is an accident.
~D
If it's as easy as pie, then why, in the comfort of your computer chair, did you miss something as easy as the sqwawk of 4215 after hearing it 7 times?

^Oh, snap!!!  :-D :lol: :-D