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Offline wiedehopf

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Random short clips
« on: June 19, 2018, 04:35:10 PM »
Let's start this thread with this one:

19.06.2018 Denver Center:
Pilot: Tornado off our left
Controller: Thanks for the report, that is about 15 miles east of my house!
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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2018, 05:09:09 AM »
At SFO EVA-Air was unable to takeoff 28R but 28L was fine, which puzzled both controller and pilots.

28R is longer than 28L and even the obstructions should be a tiny bit better that is why it is a regular occurence for pilots to ask for 28R.
Not this time though and EVA-Air was lucky they were just closing 28R and opening 28L after some nightly repairs.
I guess they could have used a new METAR for the 28L calculation with slightly better winds and 1 degree celcius colder, but apart from that i have no idea.
Anyway i guess they were very heavy.

Pertinent METARs: (actual time of departure 0854Z, but this is what they would have based their calculations on)
SA   30/06/2018 07:56->   
METAR KSFO 300756Z 29007KT 10SM CLR 17/09 A2986 RMK AO2 SLP110
           T01720094 402610144=
SA   30/06/2018 06:56->   
METAR KSFO 300656Z 31008KT 10SM CLR 18/10 A2986 RMK AO2 SLP111
           T01780100=

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2018, 03:36:31 PM »
I love these. Please keep posting them.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2018, 07:19:04 AM »
A short clip from June 2018:

Melbourne ATC query SQ247 following an unapproved speed reduction on descent.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2018, 07:44:53 AM »
Recorded earlier this week:

A passenger presents with a medical issue onboard Jetstar 700 from Hobart to Melbourne.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2018, 11:32:57 AM »
Quatari A350 is stuck at JFK!

Thank you Caro.
I had a much better one where Kennedy ground compared the airport to a Gulag the Delta he was talkin to could now leave. But somehow at the time the joke seemed a little off and i thought i'd just not put it on the internet.

Note the "Phew, we are heavy today"

Anyway more to come and hi tigerheavy.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2018, 11:22:40 PM »
Not sure if this is interesting or not. SW1050 scolded for not listening to KATL Ground. 7/26/2018 0100Z
This is the first time I've ever posted a recording so let me know if I am doing it wrong.

I came across it when trying to find any sort of communication about DAL1662. Mother in Law was on the flight and said they had to do a go-around because someone else was on the runway. I don't think it was a near miss but she said it felt close. Flightaware has the goaround at around 9:24pm ET 7/25/2018. I can't seem to find anything. Maybe I am doing it wrong. I am checking the 0100Z recordings for 7/26.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2018, 11:33:26 PM by BanditB17 »

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2018, 04:10:16 AM »
Thanks for the clip BanditB17.
If you haven't found it already here is a link to the go around. They check in at 22:48.
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/katl/KATL-Twr-8L-26R-Jul-26-2018-0100Z.mp3

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2018, 06:15:59 PM »
Fantastic, thank you. Edited clip attached. Nothing too exciting it seems. Sounds like they were letting an expedited flight cross the runway and gave them the heads up that it may end up being a go-around. Not as perilous as my MILs imagination made it seem.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2018, 01:24:30 PM »
Bad time to have to go to the restroom.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2018, 04:53:09 AM »
Not so short but not deserving it's own thread either. China Southern doing some shenanigans approaching JFK.
According to the radar the CB they were talking about was drizzle at most and there was no red anywhere near them.

Oh well if you give yourself vectors on the localizer you better watch when you arm it. They probably called established on a sidelobe as they were quite close and still offset. In the right turn the controller then reported the offset and cleared them for a visual approach.

The turn back onto the localizer looks a bit wild but hey they landed just fine :)
(I have the strong impression they just pressed "DIRECT ZULAB" which is the final approach fix and the autopilot did the rest.)

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2018, 04:30:29 AM »
Picked this up some time ago on my old feed. BORA81 (KC10) on the missed approach picking up "Justin Bieber" interference.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2018, 03:18:01 PM »
A meteor seen from JFK.

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New York TRACON controller speaks Korean
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2018, 03:04:02 PM »
Now that was impressive. Not sure Korean Air understood it though :)

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Re: New York TRACON controller speaks Korean
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2018, 11:27:04 PM »
Now that was impressive. Not sure Korean Air understood it though :)

One of the tower controllers at JFK speaks Polish. I've heard her talking to LOT multiple times.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2018, 02:44:34 AM »
Zzzzzzz... sweet dreams!

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2018, 07:53:55 PM »
SEP 27 2018: Air Asia flight XAX212 (A330 9M-XXP) from Kuala Lumpur to Melbourne develops a "flap lock" condition on the approach to RWY16. The aircraft enters a brief hold to the east and then makes a faster than normal landing on RWY16 without incident.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2018, 09:35:02 AM »
SEP 29 2018: Melbourne ATC relay some information to the pilot of a Piper Chieftain (VH-KIY) following a bird strike on departure from Moorabbin Airport.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2018, 09:38:05 AM »
SEP 30 2018: Tiger Air flight TT421 (A320 VH-VNB) from Melbourne to Perth returns mid flight due to the failure of a hydraulic system, callsign is TigOz 421.

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2018, 10:48:48 PM »
KATL Tower controller insists that AA2601 use full callsign over the radio. AA2601 obliges. Controller is not thrilled.

I can see the eye-rolling in the cockpit from here...

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2018, 02:58:55 PM »
To be clear: the controller is required to require the full callsign as in "american 2601"

Answering only with the number is not enough for runway hold short instructions.
There is a FAA rule somewhere stating that controllers need to hear that. So the controller is just doing what he is legally required to do.

("American" is the callsign of the airline not "American Airlines", the pilots are being bad sports. The controller has better things to do than to annoy 2601)

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2018, 03:27:50 PM »
Answering only with the number is not enough for runway hold short instructions.
There is a FAA rule somewhere stating that controllers need to hear that. So the controller is just doing what he is legally required to do.

Totally agree. That pilot got really bothered and became angry with no reason.

Thanks for sharing, Mar! :-)

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Re: Random short clips
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2018, 12:26:55 AM »
Answering only with the number is not enough for runway hold short instructions.
There is a FAA rule somewhere stating that controllers need to hear that. So the controller is just doing what he is legally required to do.

Totally agree. That pilot got really bothered and became angry with no reason.

Thanks for sharing, Mar! :-)

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/7340_2F_Bsc_w_Chgs_1-3_Contractions.pdf

Fair on requiring American and the number, not being a pedant but "airlines" just flat incorrect.

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Re: Random short clips- AHY101 confusion on approach to JFK
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2018, 03:44:42 PM »
When AHY101 checked in with approach runway 31R was closed so they were assigned 31L. 31R opened soon after but AHY101 was never told to change to it so it ended with some confusion when they were cleared for ILS 31R.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AHY101/history/20181020/0100Z/UBBB/KJFK

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Re: Random short clips- AHY101 confusion on approach to JFK
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2018, 10:10:17 AM »
When AHY101 checked in with approach runway 31R was closed so they were assigned 31L. 31R opened soon after but AHY101 was never told to change to it so it ended with some confusion when they were cleared for ILS 31R.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AHY101/history/20181020/0100Z/UBBB/KJFK

This was a great recording and very interesting. I transcribed it if you'd like to read it. 

I think both the pilot and the ATC were more concerned with what they were going to say that they didn't listen closely to the other. There were opportunities for both parties to ask for clarification.

When I looked at the radar tracking of this flight, the pilot was zig-zagging on his approach instead of completing his turn to heading 040.



AHY101: Good morning, AZUL with information Oscar

JFK APP: AZUL101 Heavy, Kennedy approach, expect ILS runway 31L approach. ILS 31L

AHY101: Affirm ILS 31L Azerbaijan 101, AZUL101.

DAL2068: Hey approach, Delta 2068

JFK APP: Delta 2068, expect ILS 31L

DAL2068: I know, 31L. Just let uh, let tower know that Romeo is showing 31R closed.

JFK APP: (Laughing) Okay, I’ll let them know. Thank you.

DAL2068: I think that’s what’s confusing guys.

JFK APP: Yeah, I can imagine that.

JFK APP: AZUL 101 Heavy turn left heading 340.

AHY101: Left heading 340, speed is… 200 AZUL101.

JFK APP: AZUL101 Heavy …, maintain 3000, …to localizer, clear to ILS runway 31R approach

AHY101: … to localizer, maintain 3000, clear to ILS runway 31L. AZUL101. Maintaining speed?

JFK APP: AZUL101, 31R.

AHY101: Thank you.

JFK APP: Okay. Negative Sir. I want make sure you understand you’re landing 31R.

AHY101: Confirm 31R.

JFK APP: Confirmed.

AHY101: I heard you.

JFK APP: ???6 Heavy, right turn heading 180, expect ILS 31R. It is open. Information is SIERRA.

???6:, heading 180 and 31R. Roger.

JFK APP: AZUL101 Heavy, turn right! Right turn heading 040.

AHY101: Right heading 040, AZUL101. And for runway 31R.

JFK APP: No. No, you’re established on 31L so turn right heading 040. I’m going to spin you.

AHY101: Now we’re turning to the right for 31R, AZUL101.

JFK APP: Turn heading 040.

AHY101: Heading… Now localizer established for runway 31R.

JFK APP: Turn right heading 040.

AHY101: Confirm of ILS 31R, AZUL101.

JFK APP: Okay. Delta1303, turn left heading 330 heading please join 31R.

DAL1303: 330 heading join 31R, Delta1303.

JFK APP: Delta391, descend and maintain 3,000.

JFK APP: Delta391, maintain 3.

DAL391: Maintain 3,000, Delta391

JFK APP: ???6 Heavy, descend and maintain 13,000

???6:  13,000, ???6 Heavy.

JFK APP: AZUL101 Heavy, I will tell you again, turn right heading 040, over.

AHY101: Right heading 040, AZUL101.

JFK APP: AZUL101 Heavy, expect ILS 31R, over.

AHY101: Right 040 AZUL101

JFK APP: Expect 31R, over.

AHY101: 31R, over, AZUL101.

JFK APP: Endeavor5020, turn right heading 200.

EDV5020: 200, Endeavor5020.

JFK APP: AZUL101 turn right heading 040.

AHY101: Now we’re turning, I think. 040 to the right, AZUL101.

JFK APP: Yes, I’ve turned you four times and you’re not turning. Right turning 090 now. 090.

AHY101: Right 090 AZUL101.

JFK APP: Delta1303, 6 miles from …, clear to ILS 31R approach.

DAL1303: With the ILS 31R approach, Delta 1303

DAL312: Kennedy, Delta312 9,000 Sierra, request ??? if available

JFK APP: Delta312 heading 040, plan on ILS 31R

DAL312: 31R, 040. Delta312.

AHY101: AZUL101 we were cleared before for 31L ILS.

JFK APP: No. I cleared you for the right side. Apparently there was a runway change, but I still gave you the right, you said, ‘Confirmed,’ and you still continued for the approach. So right heading 090, plan ILS 31R.

AHY101: … uhh I think … confirm the right headings.

JFK APP: Just fly heading 090, please AZUL. Fly heading eastbound, 090.

AHY101: Heading 090 for runway 31R, AZUL101.

JFK APP: Delta1303 contact Kennedy tower.

DAL1303: Over to tower. Delta 1303. Good luck!

JFK APP: Yeah. I need it. Thank you.

JFK APP: AZUL102[SIC] Heavy, turn right heading 200, descend and maintain 2,000.

AHY101: Right heading 200, descend to 2,000, AZUL101.

JFK APP: AZUL101 Heavy, turn right heading 260.

AHY101: Right heading 260, AZUL101, maintain 2,000.

JFK APP: Thank you.

JFK APP: AZUL101 Heavy, turn right heading 280, … to left, maintain 2,000, …  the localizer, clear at ILS runway 31R approach.

AZUL101: Right heading 280 for 31R, clear ILS, join localizer, Azerbaijan AZUL101.

JFK APP: Okay.

JFK APP: AZUL101 Heavy, contact Kennedy tower.

AZUL101: 119.1 AZUL101. Thank you.

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Re: Random short clips- AHY101 confusion on approach to JFK
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