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Offline JayH

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Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« on: January 08, 2013, 07:40:32 PM »
His instructor should have spent more time with him at towered fields.  You can hear the controller's frustration.  He's obviously inexperienced so I don't want to bash him too much, but perhaps this clip can be used for other students as an example of what not to do.

N21ZA at KPKB on 1/8/2013 - approach, landing, taxi, takeoff, departure.

Silence and unrelated traffic truncated from audio.

Jay
« Last Edit: January 08, 2013, 07:52:16 PM by JayH »



Offline jdflyer

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 08:10:50 PM »
He seems to be handling the radio more like you would at an uncontrolled field, making blind traffic advisories and stating the airport name at beginning and end off each transmission.

Offline InterpreDemon

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 12:14:44 PM »
Sounds like he's all ready to take a short hop from LGA to EWR...
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Offline englishpilot

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 01:28:22 PM »
Painful to listen too.  He just didn't seem to get it.  Poor fella, his instructor needs a good talking to.
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Offline Hollis

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 04:52:01 PM »
He needs a few more hours at a controlled airport, doing touch and goes and full stops. And definitely with an instructor on board.

Offline Vovakit

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 06:01:03 PM »
The ATC got steel balls to deal with it.  Try NYC metro with that training.

Offline Delta767300

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 06:41:23 AM »
"Two One Zulu Alpha, Runway 21 cleared to land."

"Parkersburg Two One Zulu Alpha...runway 21, on course.....Parkersburg."

This is just tooo damn funny.


Offline falstro

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 08:12:16 AM »
I guess cases like these are the reason why you're required to do an oral exam on radio phraseology and procedures before being allowed to fly solo cross country in Germany.. Not saying it's a good test (just one more way to squeeze some extra money out of you) or that you're an ace on the radios afterwards but in this particular case, it would probably actually have helped...

Offline soltz14

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 07:42:34 PM »
I blame the instructor... This is painful... Thankfully he didn't kill anyone.

Offline aviator_06

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2013, 10:55:01 AM »
He needs to listen to LiveATC.net! lol I recommend a lot of pilots who are uncomfortable talking with ATC to listen.

Usually talking to ATC is a confidence issue, seems like this pilot just doesn't know how to talk to atc.

Offline goiowa2010

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 11:06:00 PM »
I also fault the check airman that signed him off after his checkride.

Offline philip

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Re: Pilot has no idea how to handle Class D airspace (KPKB)
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2013, 03:12:18 PM »
IT's best to use FSX and live atc and also to start your training at a class D airport, I did both Kissimmee and Sacramento Executive