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Offline Gstrawley

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Pence campaign plane slides off runway at LGA
« on: October 27, 2016, 08:33:49 PM »
I just saw a news bulletin about this. The incident starts around 10:57.

« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 05:18:22 AM by Gstrawley »



Offline Rick108

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Re: Pence campaign plane slides off runway at LGA
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2016, 08:47:52 PM »
I just finished cutting it down a bit, then saw your post.

Offline Gstrawley

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Re: Pence campaign plane slides off runway at LGA
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2016, 08:53:27 PM »
Thanks for cutting it down. I was doing it for speed knowing that there are media folks who always come on here trying to figure out how to find the clips!

Offline lajim

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Re: Pence campaign plane slides off runway at LGA
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2016, 10:11:56 PM »
Just for a little more background, the attached edit covers several flights landing ahead of the Pence plane (Eastern 3452). This is all within about 10 minutes of the incident.
Endeavor 4030 reports braking action as "fair to good".
Endeavor 4060 reports braking action as "fair".
(Controller calls the flight after acknowledging the report but apparently 4060 had already switched to ground control).
Mercury 3391 is cleared to land. Tower advises braking action "good to medium".
Wisconsin 4034 reports braking action as "good" (CRJ2).
Endeavor 3811 cleared to land and Tower advises "braking action reported as good by CRJ2".
Tower advises Air Shuttle 6334 that braking action is good.
Endeavor 3811 and Air Shuttle 6334 land and no braking action reports provided.
Eastern 3452 (737) is cleared to land and Tower provides no braking action report.
I will defer to the pilots and controllers here but would it have been prudent to provide some type of braking action report to Eastern 3452 given the previous reports, even though Wisconsin 4034 (smaller aircraft) reported "good". Perhaps the ATIS contained a warning??? Thanks for any input.

Offline SirIsaac726

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Re: Pence campaign plane slides off runway at LGA
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2016, 03:03:11 PM »
The ATIS should indicate that braking action advisories are in effect and then they are to be provided with the landing clearance, usually. So technically, yes, she should have. Would it have changed anything? No.

Offline VASAviation

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Re: Pence campaign plane slides off runway at LGA
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2016, 06:44:13 AM »
Thanks to all the people who worked these feeds and got the audio files.

In regard to the thing about braking action, interesting debates have started in the comments of my Youtube video.

Was the rain and the runway condition the cause of this incident? Was actually the wind (bit of tailwind) the cause? Was is the pilot's skills?