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Offline davolijj

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« on: December 20, 2005, 10:46:50 PM »
About 5:30 duration...just the highlights.


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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2005, 07:47:06 AM »
Thanks JD.

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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2005, 08:48:30 AM »
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Thanks JD.


 :D I love doing projects like that...thanks for the heads-up on Audacity.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2005, 09:52:08 AM »
Thanks alot! Whats with all the recent gear problems since the Jet Blue landing?
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2005, 11:04:52 AM »
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Thanks alot! Whats with all the recent gear problems since the Jet Blue landing?


 Thanks, JD!  There's a small jet that's having landing gear issues getting
ready for a landing at St. Louis as I type this!  Hope their trip ends as
well as Midwest's did.

         Christopher

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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2005, 04:45:46 PM »
It was getting late last night, so.... Thanks, JD!  I appreciate you taking your time to cut/splice the audio together.

Audacity is a wonderful audio editor.  I've used it for a while now, so holler if you have any questions (although it is very user friendly).

Hope all is well in BVI,

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Thanks alot! Whats with all the recent gear problems since the Jet Blue landing?


I believe this is pure coincidence.  The media after the JBU landing really made every future occurance of a gear-like problem look disastrous.  What people don't realize is that gear and hydrolyic problems didn't just start occuring after  the "Jet Blue Landing."  These types of problems have been happening ever since airplanes (and powered lift) were built/discovered and always will (well, I hope not), but they just aren't everyday occurances.

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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2005, 05:09:28 PM »
is this the lear jet from today?  I saw a FX N-Number on TV so I assumed it was Flex Jets

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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2005, 09:29:52 PM »
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is this the lear jet from today?  I saw a FX N-Number on TV so I assumed it was Flex Jets


This clip is from the Midwest B717 on Wednesday.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2005, 09:51:31 AM »
Yeah I know, I heard of retractable Cessnas that jam and the plane would fly low and a person on a truck would unjam it while driving the same speed but I know its always been happening but its just a coincidence that in the past three months there has been the jet blue, the Nike Gulfstream V, The Air India 747, then The Midwest. Just a thought.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2005, 10:27:56 AM »
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Yeah I know, I heard of retractable Cessnas that jam and the plane would fly low and a person on a truck would unjam it while driving the same speed but I know its always been happening but its just a coincidence that in the past three months there has been the jet blue, the Nike Gulfstream V, The Air India 747, then The Midwest. Just a thought.


Unjamming a landing gear via truck on the ground...sounds a little 'out there' but a good read ...could you provide a link or was this just water cooler talk.

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2005, 10:54:24 AM »
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Quote from: n57flyguy
Yeah I know, I heard of retractable Cessnas that jam and the plane would fly low and a person on a truck would unjam it while driving the same speed but I know its always been happening but its just a coincidence that in the past three months there has been the jet blue, the Nike Gulfstream V, The Air India 747, then The Midwest. Just a thought.


Unjamming a landing gear via truck on the ground...sounds a little 'out there' but a good read ...could you provide a link or was this just water cooler talk.

-J

...and thanks for the audio clip Dave


It's been done and I've seen videos of it on the internet, but I wouldn't recommend it as a remedy.  You have more of a chance killing yourself and the guy(s) in the truck than if you were to just land the plane gear up.  Once you have an emergency, you and your pax safety/people on ground's safety should be your first priority, not saving the plane (although the latter is quite a hard thing to do).

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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2005, 11:48:13 AM »
I know of three incidents like this.

The first was in St. Augustine, FL on March 12, 1985.   I was living there at the time but I can't remember the details of the aircraft type; a Piper I think.  The car was a BMW (if memory serves) with a sunroof.  A pax in the car pulled the gear down by hand.  It made an episide of Rescue 911 (remember that show?  with Capt Kirk hosting).

The second one I know of happened in NE, in July of this year.  A 210 with a stuck gear, and a guy with more balls than brains in the back of a pickup used a stick to poke the gear down.
Link: http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1109870.html.

The third I know of also happened in New Smyrna Beach, FL in September of this year.  This time a 172 RG and a jeep.
Link & video:  http://www.wftv.com/irresistible/4982688/detail.html.

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2005, 02:13:00 PM »
It was in the recent AOPA pilot magazine but the site is members only. It has happened and the picture they showed was a guy in a jeep pulling it out, the video biff put up. But it does take more balls than brains to do it and no it is not watercooler talk, its liveatc.net talk!
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2005, 03:17:53 PM »
WOW!!!

Thanks for the links....people will do ANYTHING!

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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2005, 05:39:19 PM »
Yeah thanks alot! that was very interesting! thanks for sharing.
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