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Title: LAX south tower
Post by: bjen9337 on December 08, 2013, 03:12:49 PM

On Saturday 12/07 at around 2 pm PST, there was some jibber/jabber between the LAX south tower controller and what appeared to be a United 744. The pilot and controller were having a "discussion" regarding the controller being ignored by the pilot. The call sign was what sounded  to be "Santa 25". Can someone find and post the audio? Thanks.

Title: Re: LAX south tower
Post by: MochaHagotdi on December 08, 2013, 04:32:39 PM

Here ya go!

Title: Re: LAX south tower
Post by: ARMEDnPISSED on December 08, 2013, 06:16:47 PM

Nice catch.

What's up with the Santa call sign though?

Title: Re: LAX south tower
Post by: Fryy/Avocadoflight on December 09, 2013, 03:12:29 AM

During Christmas services British Airways uses SANTA as their callsign.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedbird (Very Bottom)

Title: Re: LAX south tower
Post by: martyj19 on December 09, 2013, 11:06:40 AM

If anyone should want to look up a code of any sort (callsign, aircraft registration prefix, aircraft type) the officially adopted lists are here in Order 7340.2, for ICAO and the US.

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/index.htm

You'll find SANTA assigned to British Airways.

Title: Re: LAX south tower
Post by: RonR on December 09, 2013, 11:28:57 AM

In this case it sounded like a United flight was using the SANTA call sign...just sayin'  :-)

Is it possible that a call sign like SANTA can be used by any flight if it's a special type of flight?  I'm not really sure, that's why I'm asking...

Title: Re: LAX south tower
Post by: bjen9337 on December 09, 2013, 02:06:40 PM

It was definitely UAL 744; I was watching the feed from CargoLaw webcam. UAL 198 B788 was behind it next in line. Once they were cleared to line up & wait, a female FO ( I assume) did all the talking with the tower controller until handed off to SoCal departure.

Title: Re: LAX south tower
Post by: ARMEDnPISSED on December 09, 2013, 06:30:09 PM

Definitely not a BA flight... the pilot had had an American accent and when tower was talking to UAL198, he mentioned "company 747".

Title: Re: LAX south tower
Post by: tyketto on December 10, 2013, 01:13:19 PM

This is what you heard:

https://hub.united.com/en-us/news/company-operations/pages/united-fantasy-flights.aspx

This was a UAL flight, doing a Fantasy flight to the North Pole. Since this is their 20th year doing it, they decided to branch out and do this at more than one airport:

Quote

This year, we will host Fantasy Flights in all of our hub cities – Chicago, Cleveland, Houston, Denver, Los Angeles, Newark, N.J., San Francisco and Washington, D.C. – as well as Boise, ID., Phoenix, San Antonio, Texas, and Sydney.

You just happened to catch that clip! Well done.

BL.